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George Luton

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Sheila

Sheila Report 30 May 2015 14:24

Emmigrated in 1907 aged 8 years to Quebec Canada on the ship called 'Dominion.

Andrew

Andrew Report 30 May 2015 14:40

Hi Sheila and welcome to the message boards.

Here is his record.

What further information are you trying to find?

He went with a large party of other children, so probably a group of 'orphans'.



UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name:George Luton
GenderMale
Age:8
Birth Date:abt 1899
Departure Date:12 Sep 1907
Port of Departure:Liverpool, England
Destination Port:Quebec, Canada
Ship Name:Dominion
Search Ship Database:
Search for the Dominion in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line:Dominion Line
Master:W L Mendus

Andy

safc

safc Report 30 May 2015 14:44

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Name: George Luton
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Event Place: Muskoka Sub-Districts 1-25, Ontario, Canada
District: Muskoka
Gender: Male
Age (Estimated): 10
Marital Status: Single
Relationship to Head of Household: Boarder
Birth Date: May 1901
Birthplace: England
Household ID: 17
Line Number: 14
GS Film Number: 002418510
Digital Folder Number: 007526764
Image Number: 00222


Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
David Holinshead Head M Ontario
George Luton Boarder M England
George Ward Boarder M England



Citing this Record:
"Recensement du Canada de 1911," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVB8-1PQ3 : accessed 30 May 2015), George Luton in entry for David Holinshead, 1911; citing Census, Muskoka Sub-Districts 1-25, Ontario, Canada, Library and Archives of Canada, Ottawa, Ontario; FHL microfilm .

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 30 May 2015 14:45

George traveled with a load of other youngsters so looks as if he's a homechild

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 30 May 2015 14:51

Item: George LUTON
Given Name(s): George
Surname: LUTON
Age: 8
Gender: M
Ship: DOMINION
Port of Departure: Liverpool
Date of Departure: 1907-09-12
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Date of Arrival: 1907-09-22
Year of Arrival: 1907
Party: Barnardo Homes <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Destination: Toronto, Ontario
Comments: See also reel T-528 (manifest index) and RG76, Central Registry Files, volume 51, file 2209, part 2, reel C-4716
Type of Records: Passenger Lists
Microfilm Reel Number: T–492
Children travelling together: Q07BQ
Source: Library and Archives Canada
Reference: RG 76 C1a
Item Number: 64753

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 30 May 2015 14:54

Sailing on the Dominion he was probably a barnados or other agencies child

That ship took lots of home children to Canada via the USA

They werent always orphans , my aunt was a home child in 1909 ,her mum died in 1906 and grandad was forced to put her and her brothers in a McPherson home in the east end of London

Like barnados the parent putting em in signed away parental rights as one of the clause of them being accepted in

Grandfather married our nan,also a widow in aug 1909 but sadly auntie had been sent to Canada on the 9th August . They did though manage to get back the 3 boys from the home ,

Auntie went on the Tunisian which seemed to be another vessel they used

malyon

malyon Report 30 May 2015 15:47

could this be his birth



George Luton
England and Wales Birth Registration Index
Name: George Luton
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1899
Registration District: Birmingham
County: Warwickshire
Event Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Volume: 6D
Page: 137
Line Number: 240

Catherine

Catherine Report 30 May 2015 15:58

I was wondering about Yvonne's birth too. This looks to be him in 1901:-

Name: George Luton
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation to Head: Son (Child)
Gender: Male
Father: Thomas A Luton
Mother: Mary E Luton
Birth Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston Manor
Ecclesiastical parish: Aston Brook St Mary
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Aston Manor
ED, institution, or vessel: 62
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2889
Folio: 79
Page Number: 4
Household schedule number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas A Luton 37 Birth Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire (1864)
Mary E Luton 33 Birth Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire -1868)
George Luton 1
....................
Marriage for above couple:-
Name: Thomas Albert Luton
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1864
occupation: Iron Moulder
Marriage Date: 7 Mar 1886
Marriage Age: 22
Marriage Place: Birmingham, St Matthias, Warwickshire, England
Spouse: Mary Ether Pitt
Spouse Gender: Female
Spouse Marriage Age: 23
Father: George Luton
occupaton: Iron Moulder
Spouse's Father: James Pitt
Occupation: Gas Fitter (deceased)
Reference Number: DRO 8
Archive Roll: 619
..............................................


This looks to be above father in 1911
Name: Thomas Albert Luton
Age in 1911: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Sutton Coldfield
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address: 25 Lime Grove Erdington
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Iron Moulder Fire Pranges
Registration district: Aston
Registration District Number: 385
Sub-registration district: Sutton Coldfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Piece: 18375
Thomas Albert Luton 47

Boarder with a Sarah Ann Rice

States married 25yrs
Children 1 Living

No sign of son or wife.

malyon

malyon Report 30 May 2015 16:04

did you find a mary e in 1911 census alot of women did not reg on census that year

i looked but could not find her cant find a death for her her

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 30 May 2015 16:13

Mary Esther Luton
Probate Date: 1 Mar 1920
Death Date: 28 Dec 1918
Death Place: Birmingham, West Midlands, England
Registry: London, England

Probate to Thomas Albert Luton, Iron Moulder


Mary Luton
Birth Date: abt 1864
Date of Registration: Mar 1919
Age at Death: 55
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 330

safc

safc Report 30 May 2015 16:15

????


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
25, Dove Row, Shoreditch, London, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Luton Head Married Male 50 1851 General Dealer Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
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Catharine Luton Wife Married Female 48 1853 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Transcription
William Luton Son Single Male 22 1879 General Dealer Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Transcription
Catharine Luton Daughter Single Female 15 1886 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
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Charles Luton Son Single Male 13 1888 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Transcription
Lily Luton Daughter Single Female 7 1894 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Transcription
George Luton Son Single Male 2 1899 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

mgnv

mgnv Report 30 May 2015 21:02

Ship: DOMINION
Port of Departure:Liverpool, England
Date of Departure:1907-09-12
Port of Arrival:Quebec, Que. Montreal, Que.
Date of Arrival:1907-09-23
Year: 1907
Microfilm Reel Number: T-492
Remarks:Another date appears on manifest: 1907-09-22
List Number: 723650
Reference: RG 76
Item Number: 4811
http://data2.archives.ca/e/e147/e003666708.jpg
[bound for Toronto]

1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Muskoka / 2 Brunel / page 3
13 17 Holinshead David M Head S Oct 1888 22
14 17 Luton George M Boarder S May 1901 10
15 17 Ward George M Boarder S Apr 1902 9
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002003420.pdf
[Brunel Twp is the twp just S of Huntsville
His passenger list gives his age as 8 in /1907.
I believe the a=8, and the May birthmonth]

Anyone can search 1921 and get images, transcriptions for free, but only via:
http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=8991
[Don't let Ancestry bounce you to another of their sites]

At present, only his attestation paper is online
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc010/475972a.gif
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc010/475972b.gif
Name Date of Birth Rank Regimental Number Reference
LUTON, GEORGE H 03/07/1894 452460 RG 150, Accession 1992-93/166, Box 5801 - 13

I think this is your guy - his n.o.k. is his "guardian".
His d.o.b. makes him 21 3 days before enlistment - I believe his age was 16y 1m.
The M.O. probably didn't believe his stated age - he list him as apparent a=19, but this was old enough to enlist with permission of his guardian.
Rarely, actual proof of permission was demanded - I think often a verbal assurance that the enlistee had permission sufficed.

I don't know if this is his guardian:
Name: William Lovering
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 69
Birth Year: abt 1852
Birth Place: Ontario
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Rachel Lovering
Father Birth Place: England
Mother Birth Place: Ontario
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Province or Territory: Ontario
District: Simcoe East
District Number: 126
Sub-District: Penetanguishene
Sub-District Number: 41
City, Town or Village: Coldwater Village
Street or Township: River St
Municipality: Coldwater
Occupation: Farmer R
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Lovering 69
Rachel Lovering 65
Johanna K Lovering 29





LAC say:
The digitization of the Canadian Expeditionary Force (CEF) service files is underway and a substantial number of digitized files have been added to our website as part of the Government of Canada First World War commemoration activities. We will add new files every two weeks, as the CEF digitization initiative is a priority for us. LAC will ensure that Canadians have access to the files throughout the digitization process, scheduled to be completed by the end of 2018.

I would guess your guy would appear by the end of 2016, so you might want to search again then via
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/first-world-war-1914-1918-cef/Pages/search.aspx

The service file appears as a link in the top right - to see what I mean, try a search for George Atherton instead of George Luton




I don't see him listed in WW1 deaths at CWGC, so he might have stayed in England after WW1 - you can probably tell once you see his service file.


Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 May 2015 08:07

If he was a Barnados kiddy then they will have his records

You can request them they take a while and they now charge but they do seem to have kept all records

We enquired about my FIL who was born in 1901 and thought the home he was put in was Barnados .they did,a search and said no .I did eventually find the home he was in .

Barnardos though were very helpful

Sheila

Sheila Report 31 May 2015 09:58

Thank you so much everyone for your help, I can now move forward on this one. My George Luton was the one born in Shoreditch. :-D :-D :-D

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 31 May 2015 09:58

He is Barnado's, it's shown on the record I posted yesterday

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 May 2015 10:58

I know it said Barnados what I was saying is they will have his records :-)