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Barbara McClelland 2013/07/16 09:12:18 PM

hello Anthony do you have any advice for researching Scottish ancestry? I am trying to trace a Roderick McClelland who appears on the 1851 census for Liverpool aged 24, born Scotland. In various records his surname is spelled in a variety of ways Mclennan, Mac lennon .......etc I know he was a mariner and his wedding cert gives father as Duncan McLennan, but there so many possible spelllings! thanks Barbara

I wrote a book called Tracing Your Scottish Family History, which will explain the sources but in fact the best source first off are the other English censuses, 1861, 1871 and so on, as one of these may give a more precise place of origin than just 'Scotland'. Also, our sister-site Find My Past has the seamen's tickets ('Merchant Navy Seamen 1835-1941') indexed and these should give a more precise place of birth. For Scotland there are the Old Parochial Registers (on Scotlandspeople.gov.uk) and maybe you will find Duncan in his own right in the censuses and deaths. Well done for thinking of spelling variants - knowing that there may be some is half the battle won.

Ruth Beddall 2013/07/16 09:11:48 PM

I am trying to search for my half sister, Jeanne Frances Beddall, born on the Isle of Wight in 1932. other than her birth I haven't been able to find any further mention of her in marriages or deaths. None of my cousins have any information about her other than a sighting at a RAF camp in the early 1950's. Through Genes Reunited I have been able to trace my half brother Reginald J Beddall via his wifes nephew. I understand that he is in poor health and left it that if his wife felt it was appropriate she would inform him of my search. This being the case I don't feel that I can intrude on the nephew again to ask for help. If you could give me any guidance in trying to trace Jeanne, I would be very greatful.

I see here that you are really asking me for my opinion rather than for advice on tracing a family tree so I shall give my opinion. If Reginald is your half-brother then if he is in poor health (with all that implies) then nobody who has the opportunity of putting you in touch should fail to do so. There is no point waiting until he has passed away and then regretting it. Besides this, presumably Reginald's wife knows where your half-sister is, so presumably she can put you in touch with her regardless of any other considerations. Genealogy is nothing if not the pursuit of the truth.

Gratrix Bradbury 2013/07/16 09:03:41 PM

Hello Anthony, I am trying to locate my great grandmother Ellen Bradbury (nee Shingler) She was born in shropshire in 1872. In july 1894 she married John Bradbury at St thomas church in Newhey lancashire. She became pregnant with my grandfather in early 1895. Sadly in March

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Gratrix Bradbury 2013/07/16 09:03:41 PM

Hello Anthony, I am trying to locate my great grandmother Ellen Bradbury (nee Shingler) She was born in shropshire in 1872. In july 1894 she married John Bradbury at St thomas church in Newhey lancashire. She became pregnant with my grandfather in early 1895. Sadly in March

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Gratrix Bradbury 2013/07/16 09:03:41 PM

Hello Anthony, I am trying to locate my great grandmother Ellen Bradbury (nee Shingler) She was born in shropshire in 1872. In july 1894 she married John Bradbury at St thomas church in Newhey lancashire. She became pregnant with my grandfather in early 1895. Sadly in March

Ah, I suspect there is more of the story to come - can you tell me what happened in March?

Andre Daltrey 2013/06/18 09:52:01 PM

Hi Anthony, I am trying to locate a man named Ian Barsalay (or somethg sounding similar) he is supposed to be my father, I was born in London on 22nd Feb 1971, any help would be appreciated! Andre Daltrey.

That's an interesting one - presumably this is a name you have been told but not seen written down. I have tried it and a few variants in this site's main search facility but nothing has come up...... http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/search/results?firstname=ian&firstname_variants=true&lastname=barsalay...... but if you keep trying different possible spellings maybe something will. Mind you, if you saw the name scribbled down and did not hear it at all, then perhaps this is Berkeley (or variants thereof). Ian used to be a Scottish name (it is a variant of John) but in the last century it has been used all over the British Isles. I see that you are a man. Have your Y chromosome DNA tested by www.familytreedna.com and see which men you most closely match. The closer the match the closer you will be related to them in the male line, ie, though your father, so your matches' surnames may give you a clue as to his.

Estelle Ralphs 2013/06/18 09:42:54 PM

Hello I'm trying to contact my birth mother I have found the marriage certificate but I'm new to this and don't seem to be getting anywhere

Armed with her marriage certificate the next logical steps would be to look for her in telephone directories (or indeed on internet sites such as this or Facebook) and, failing that, to see if she had any children (using the birth indexes on this site) and look for them in the same way. Also, maybe she is trying to find you - have you joined the Adoption Contact Register. Also see this very helpful page, on this website - http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/Home/Adoption?gclid=CLLimNi87rcCFTIQtAodn2EAYA

marian norton 2013/06/18 09:35:11 PM

Hi Antony I am trying to find out my gt gt grandfather Thomas William Murphy born in India in 1829 to Jiohn Murphy and Elizabeth Smith , I would like to know when he left India. His father died while out there and his mother remarried a Charles Clissett in India , I have not a record of him returning from India until he joined the army as a bugle boy. Marian

Presumably you have Thomas's army papers and know that he enlisted in England and not in India, so in a way you have the main pieces of the jigsaw. Finding exactly when he returned (or, rather was sent back) would be is unlikely, without a stroke of luck.

Joan Russell 2013/06/18 09:33:31 PM

My Great Grandfather Joseph Russell on the 1881 census for Widnes Lancashire he was born in Ashby de la Zouch Leicester on the 1871 for Ditton Lancashire he was born in London, Ive been trying to find him for 20 years, he married his first wife at St Nicholas Church in Liverpool in 1870 he married my great grandmother Caroline Edwards two weeks after his first wife ( Charlotte Bestwick Murray died in Railway hotel Ditton he was the landlord at that time. His fathers name was William Russell a butcher by trade. Joseph was a bricksetter on one certificate and an engine fitter on another. Regards. Joan Russell Holmes

The devil will be in the detail here and if you have been trying for 20 years then it's unlikely that a simple search will suffice, but the obvious things here would be to seek his birth in either place, seek further coordinates on him from the later censuses, and look for him and his father, together or separately, in the earlier censuses for London or Ashby de la Zouche. But I suspect you may have tried these things.... may Cynthia and her colleagues on this site's Community Boards can help in more depth!

Cynthia - re your query. 2013/06/18 09:27:47 PM

Hi Anthony, Can you also remind folk that there are lots of helpful members of GR on the Community Boards who are willing to help them in their research 24/7. Thank you.

Absolutely!

June Wellsman 2013/06/18 09:12:34 PM

INFORMATION ON THE HARVEY FAMILY BORN ST PANCRAS STEPNEY BORN 1884 BEFORE AND AFTER MOTHER ANNIE ELDRED MARRIED JAMES HARVEY

I think this relates to a previous question which I have already answered. As I said, Stepney and St Pancras are different parts of London.

Alfred Cumberland 2013/06/18 09:12:15 PM

I am trying to find out about my Father who belonged to a Trawler Owners family in Grimsby & Hull in the 20th Century. They were "Hudson Brothers Ltd" his name was Alfred Hudson. I do not know the names of his parents and have little to start my search for the Family Tree?

Start with what you know and work back. Seek and obtain his marriage record, which will give his age and his father's name and occupation. Then seek your father's birth, and then his parents' marriage and work back slowly and steadily, as a Hull fisherman might have done. From 1911 back you can use the censuses to help as well. The indexes are all on this website and you can order the certificates from http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp.

Dorothy Lawson 2013/06/18 09:11:58 PM

Dear Anthony, Any tips on how to find name of child of Herbert Frank Lucas and Emma Ann, Bury Road Harlow mentioned in the 1911 census but was not in the house on the night of the census.No clues as to age or sex.We know Herbert Frank died in 1912 after long illness and think child may have been cared for by relatives . Grateful for any help. Regards Dorothy

Such questions as this have only started to be asked since the 1911 census became available, and many such questions have been asked. You want to seek this couple's marriage (the 1911 census will say how long they had been married and the husband's name is distinctive enough). Then you can seek births of Lucas children in Harlow, between the time of the marriage and the night of the 1911 census and check the birth records you find for the right parents. Tip - you may be able to eliminate birth entries which are not relevant by finding them with their (different) parents in the 1911 census.

Catherine Kelly 2013/06/18 09:11:01 PM

hi anthony, i am trying to find the death of my grandad's sisters son he was john kelly born 24.4.1921 at 315 south wellington st govan glasgow, he was illegitimate, john and his mother was in and out of differant poorhouses between glasgow and ayrshire, the last address i can find for them both is kyle poorhouse sat 26.9.1922. where can i go from here. regards catherine kelly

You can seek his marriage and death in Scottish General Registration but if there is a mystery over what happened to him you could see if he emigrated: if the workhouse records survive they may give some clue to this.

ROSEMARY DAVIE 2013/06/18 09:10:55 PM

MY GRAND PARENTS, GEORGE DAVIE BORN 1870 IN BARNSTAPLE DEVON AND EMILY DAVIE NEE KIDWELL BORN 1869 IN BARNSTAPLE ALSO, MUST HAVE TRAVELLED TO SOUTH WALES DURING THEIR MARRIAGE AS TWO OF THEIR CHILDREN, EDITH BORN 1895 - ROATH AND ALICE MAUD BORN 1899 NEATH, WERE BORN THERE. AM TRYING TO FIND OUT WHERE THEY WERE LIVING AND WHY THEY HAD TRAVELLED THERE?

They would almost certainly have crossed the Severn Sea to work in the mining industry. I expect you have these dates from censuses. If you obtain the two girls' birth certificates you will learn the father's occupations on both occasions, and where they were living at the time - so they will tell you exactly what you want to know.

John Minkley 2013/06/18 09:10:07 PM

please can you help im searching for a relative from 1846 her name is Catherine Minkley she was born in Plungar, Leicestershire and she is recorded on the 1851Census in Plungar/Bingham and 1861 Census in Radford , Nottm, after this she has no connections at all even trying to go through other relatives tree's and family tree's on your website and they all draw a blank, you help in this matter is appreciated

The most likely options are that she married, or died. You can seek both using the General Registration marriage and death records here on this website.

June Wellsman 2013/06/18 09:08:21 PM

TRYING TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUTTHE HARVEY FAMILY FROM ST PANCRAS STEPNEY THERE WAS ELIZABETH JOHN GEORGE JOSIPH ROSE JAMES ELIZABETH WAS BORN 1884 HER MOTHER ANNIE ELDRED FATHER JAMES HARVEY THANKS JUNIE@WELLSMAN.CO.UK

St Pancras and Stepney are very different and distinct parts of London. Based on what you know already you could seek the Harveys in the censuses (starting with 1891, in which Elizabeth should be about seven) and you can seek the marriage of her parents. You can do all this using the records indexed on this website, Genes Reunited.

Denise Howard 2013/06/18 09:06:54 PM

I have another question for you I am seeking the parents of Richard G Wilkes born 15 Aug 1917 in Swansea South Wales, I cannot find a marriage for the names of the parents I have which are annie Jones and George wilkes, am I looking in the correct place, I have a birth cert and this is the names on this/

A marriage between George Wilkes and Annie Jones should not be too hard to find - maybe George was a soldier, if so the army marriages could hold the key (they are indexed on this site). 'Annie' could be your problem - maybe she is under Ann or Anne instead of Annie.

Marjorie Gibb 2013/06/18 09:04:20 PM

When will the Births, Marriages and Deaths be updated on Genes Reunited.?

Are you referring here to the records after 2005? They're in an odd situation because as far as I know there is no agreement for their being added to any commercial websites. To look for such events one must do as we all used to do before the Internet came along - ask the relevant registrar, if you know which one to ask, or use the microfilm indexes. There are various sets around the country, at Westminster City Archives, the British Library. The National Archives, astonishingly, didn't want their set so gave them away to the London Metropolitan Archives. I know - it seems positively Medieval now!

Denise Howard 2013/06/18 09:02:55 PM

Please can any help I am looking for a marriage for the above person, he was born in Bristol in 1882 and his parenets were charles John stevens and eliza paul both parents were born in Bristol, I seem to hit a brick wall in tracing him can you give me any tips as I cannot find any more infomation on him - I have heard he is married but I cannot pin point a marriage for him any suggestions, all the people I know have no more details on him only the birth

I'd love to help but unfortunately your message does not name the 'above person' but presumably he was a Stevens and therefore, as the possessor of a popular surname, rather hard to find. You could try tracing him forward through the censuses, 1891, 1901 and 1911 and maybe you will find he had married by then. Otherwise maybe he was a soldier and you will find his wedding in army marriages. Or maybe he just didn't marry.....