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Evelyn Scanes was one of the children of William Scanes and his wife, Octavia Hoard.
Although I've seen on sites external to GenesReunited, various mentions of Evelyn's siblings, I'm trying to find anyone who has researched William and Octavia's family to a great extent, and who might either have photos of Evelyn, or know more about her.
Evelyn was born 31.7.1859 in Poplar, and was the fifth child of William and Octavia. In December 1877 Evelyn married Robert James Grieve (sometimes recorded as Grieves) in the
Mile End area.
Robert Grieve[s] died in the 1890s, and towards the end of the same decade, his widow, Evelyn, marrie again, and this time to a Jonas Jonson (sometimes spelled as Johnson).
Although Jonas was shown in the 1901 census with the forename of 'Joseph', and although he was said to have been born in 'London', his name was definitely Jonas, and rather than London, he actually hailed from Norway!
Jonas died in 1916, but as to where he was buried, or when Evelyn died and was buried, is yet to be discovered.
Is there a Scanes descendant/researcher who knows anything about the Evelyn mentioned above, and knows whether she had any children from either her first or second marriage? If so, I really look forward to hearing from you.
My connection might be considered 'periphery', for although Jonas Jonson was my great grandfather, his first wife appears to have left him after their daughter (Minnie Jonson) was born in 1882 at Swansea, Glamorgan.
Whilst there is a possibility that there was some connection post-1911 between Jonas/Evelyn in the Upton Park area, and Minnie Jones (nee Jonson) in Swansea, it is not known at the moment what that connection was, other than in our family's possession is a n oil painting of a ship called the 'Grive', on which Jonas served between c1905 and 1911 as a 'Ship's Carpenter'.
How the painting came into the family is yet to be discovered, but if there's any Scanes family member who knows about the Poplar/Swansea connection, or about Evelyn Jonson/Johnson, formerly Grieve(s) nee Scanes, I'll be more than happy to hear from you!
John
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Possible for 1891:
1891 England Census
about Evelyn Grieve
Name: Evelyn Grieve
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Poplar, London, England
Civil Parish: Bromley St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael and All Angels
Town: Bromley
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Poplar
Sub registration district: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Linngstone 57
Harriett Linngstone 48
William Linngstone 20
Florence Linngstone 18
Harriett Linngstone 13
John M Ward 57
Evelyn Grieve 36
Evelyn is noted as married, but then under occupation it says "single"
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Don't know if you're still searching for any Scanes relatives or the Swansea connection. I'm part of the Swansea branch of the Scanes family. My Great Grandfather, Mark Scanes came to Swansea around the mid 1860s. He was born in Newton St Cyres near Crediton in1844 and I have uncovered an Uncle named William showing as living in Newton St Cyres in the 1851 census but I can find no trace of him in later census information.
I know my grandfather was in contact with relatives in the London area but have no more details as regards them.
If I can help you further please let me know.
Jen
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Just posting to bring this to my threads as I am interested in this family.
I have sent a message to OP.
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You could have clicked on 'watch this' to have it in your trheads
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Good Luck with your research, LadyKira.
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Thanks Patchem.
I have heard from the original poster so may post some requests here.
Evelyn filed for divorce one year after marriage after his excessive violence in front of witnesses and his adultry.
I have the record on Ancestry but have not found if the divorce was granted or if there are newspaper reports.
LK
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Hi LK, just to clarify - it's the divorce between Evelyn and which husband that you're interested in? When was the divorce filed?
I could take a look in the newspaper archives, it would obviously also be of interest to John.
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It was the first husband Robert James Grieve.
This is what I have so far.
1861 Address: 1, Margaret Street, All Saints Poplar
SCANES, William Head Married M 33 1828 Houseman Southampton Hampshire
SCANES, Octavia Wife Married F 29 1832 Limehouse Middlesex
SCANES, Emily Daughter F 13 1848 Scholar Limehouse Middlesex
SCANES, William Son M 9 1852 Scholar Poplar Middlesex
SCANES, Thomas Son M 6 1855 Scholar Poplar Middlesex
SCANES, Walter Son M 3 1858 Scholar Poplar Middlesex
SCANES, Evelyn Daughter F 1 1860 Poplar Middlesex<<<<<<<<<
BARNETT, Mary Servant Unmarried F 17 1844 General Servant Poplar Middlesex
1871 Address: Three Colt Street, West Side, St Ann Limehouse
SCANES, William Head M 42 1829 Hampshire
SCANES, Octavia Wife F 39 1832 Middlesex
SCANES, William Son M 19 1852 Middlesex
SCANES, Thomas Son M 17 1854 Middlesex
SCANES, Walter Son M 13 1858 Middlesex
SCANES, Evelyn Daughter F 11 1860 Middlesex <<<<<<<<<
SCANES, Sydney Son M 9 1862 Middlesex
SCANES, Herbert Son M 7 1864 Middlesex
SCANES, Edith Daughter F 2 1869 Middlesex
TRAVELS, Jane Servant F 19 1852 Middlesex
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Evelyn Scanes
Name: Evelyn Scanes
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Age: 18
Spouse Name: Robert James Grieve
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 18 Dec 1877
Parish: Stepney St Philip
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: William Scanes
Spouse Father: Robert James Grieve
Register Type: Parish Register
England & Wales, Civil Divorce Records, 1858-1911 about Evelyn Grieve
Name: Evelyn Grieve
Gender: Female
Spouse Name: Robert James Grieve
Spouse Gender: Male
Petition Year: 1878
Type of Record: Wife's petition
Divorce Court File Number: 5811
1881Address: 102, Three Colt St, Limehouse
SCANES, William Head Married M 53 1828 Shipwright Hampshire
SCANES, Octavia Wife Married F 49 1832 Wife Limehouse Middlesex
SCANES, Sidney Son Single M 19 1862 Clerk Poplar Middlesex
SCANES, Harriet Daughter Single F 17 1864 Clerk Poplar Middlesex
SCANES, Edith Daughter Single F 12 1869 Scholar Limehouse Middlesex
GREVES, Evelyn Daughter Married F 21 1860 Daur Poplar
Middlesex <<<<<<<<<
1891 England Census
about Evelyn Grieve
Name: Evelyn Grieve
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Poplar, London, England
Civil Parish: Bromley St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael and All Angels
Town: Bromley
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Poplar
Sub registration district: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Linngstone 57
Harriett Linngstone 48
William Linngstone 20
Florence Linngstone 18
Harriett Linngstone 13
John M Ward 57
Evelyn Grieve 36 <<<<<<<<<
1901 Address: 50, Henderson Road, East Ham
SCANES, Herbert Head Married M 37 1864 Timber Mercht Clerk
London
SCANES, Margaret E Wife Married F 37 1864
London
SCANES, Edith M Daughter Single F 9 1892
London
SCANES, William H Son Single M 8 1893
London
SCANES, Edgar H Son Single M 6 1895
London
SCANES, May O Daughter Single F 4 1897
London
TURNER, Margaret E Mother-In-Law Married F 68 1833
London
JONSON, Evelyn Aunt Married F 39 1862
London <<<<<<<<<
JONSON, Joseph Brother-In-Law Married M 46 1855 Carpenter
London
1911 England Census about Evelyn Jonson
Name: Evelyn Jonson
Age in 1911: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Poplar, London, England
Civil Parish: East Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address: 45 Marlborough Rd, Forest Gate E
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: West Ham
Registration District Number: 188
Sub-registration district: North East Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 151
Piece: 9560
Household Members:
Name Age
John David Warren 37
Elizabeth Warren 38
John Benjamen Warren 12
Thomas David Warren 10
Emily Warren 8
William Warren 4
George Warren 2
Evelyn Jonson 47 <<<<<<<<<
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Nothing coming up in the newspaper archives. Looking at the divorce papers it doesn't appear that her husband responded to the petition and there is no mention of a decree being granted so I'd suggest that the divorce wasn't finalised.
Given that she married after the death of her first husband then I suspect that her 1898 marriage certificate to Jonson would just say she was a widow.
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That is what I understood so thanks for the clarification.
Just need some info on Jonas/Joseph now.
He is not on the 1911 with her but that is when he should be on the Grive.
Possible sighting before the marriage here.
1891 England Census about John Johnson
Name: John Johnson
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Crew
Where born: Norway
Civil Parish: Vessels
Town: Bugsbys Hole Charlton
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Woolwich
Sub-registration district: Charlton
ED, institution, or vessel: Henry Morton
Piece: 528
Folio: 130
John Johnson 45 ???
Not to far away. Just depends on what side of the boat you get off.
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