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Hi Christine

I have found baptisms for a John Arthur Journeaux and a Walter Philip Journeaux in St Helier, births 2/10/1889 and 27/11/1891, parents James Journeaux and Alice Clara Page.

www.jerseyheritagetrust.jeron.je - pages of Journeaux

It looks as if Alice died and James remarried as in the 1901 for Southampton his wife is Charlotte. There is also a Dora Hayden listed as step-daughter. Checking BMD there is this marriage

Marriages Sep 1900 (>99%)
Day Amelia Alice I. Wight 2b 1203
Hayden Charlotte I. Wight 2b 1203 <<<<<<<
Journeaux James I. Wight 2b 1203 <<<<<<<
Summers Samuel William I. Wight 2b 1203

James's father was John, 1816 St Peter, and there seem to have been at least 8 children. They are shown on the 1851 as Journeana.

I will be able to find out more when the Archive re-opens on Tues

Thank you for all that, John Arthur is the grandfather he married Mabel Puckett in Southampton.

I look forward to your findings.

Thank you very much

Christine

Jeffrey

I have now had a look at Mary Maria's birth certificate and the details are the same as on the copy you have.

17/9/1849 Mary Maria Noyce, father William Noyce, occupation chimney sweep, mother Eliza Hicks.
Birth notified by Mary Pritcher, grandmother, present at the birth. 16, Old Street.

Hi Pam,

Thank you very much for checking. I had hoped it was a transcription error, which is easy to do with signatures. Now I know that I must give more consideration to all sorts of variants of the surname.

Thank you once again for your time.

Best wishes,
Jeff

Corinne

I had a look at Patrick's Jnr's death certificate and the date of death was 23/2/1872, he died at 27, Canon Street, St Helier and the cause of death was Hydropsie which I think is something to do with fluid retention.

The only Maloney birth that was one of yours (lots of others) was Michael.
He was born at 4am on 11/8/1855 at 3, Pier Rd.
Patrick registered the birth and gave an address at Parade Place so I think Pier Rd was probably where the midwife lived. Mother Honora Jones.

Hi Jerseylily
Yes they were living at Canon St.as it is on the 1871 census paper.The birth of Michael they have Parade St on the 1861 census.
Michael was the second born and Ann was first born in 1854 that is how I worked out the marriage year.
I wonder if her name was Honora and shortened to Nora.The question is would that have been there marriage with her named Mary all confusing.
Thank you for all your help.
Regards Corinne

Hello Jerseylily
Would you be able to look up for me.
Michael Mahoney 1861 census aged 76 his death certificate,sorry but I do not no the year but he was not on the 1871 census.He was born Ireland.

I cannot find Ann Mahoney in the 1871 census,I know she was still there as she came with the family to New Zealand.She would have been about 16.

Thanks
Corinne

Hello Corinne

I can't find Ann Mahoney on the 1871 census either. Possibly she's in service somewhere and has been accidentally transscibed with the name of the family she's working for.

I did have a quick look for Michael's death but didn't find it in St Helier. I'll have another look when we get back - away next week.

Hi JeseyLily

Could you please look up a birth of Joseph Vardon born St Helier c1852.

Have traced in England (via marriage in 1887 to Catherine Smith). He is my wife's 2 xgt g'father.

Thanking you in anticipation

Bernie

Thanks Jerseylily.Have a good week.

Bernard

Do you think this is him in 1861

Name Age
Mary Vardon 60
Mary E Vardon 22
George P Vardon 19
Joe Philip Vardon 7 <<<<< grandson

He's the only Joseph Vardon on the 1861.
I'll have a look for his birth when I get back .

JerseyLily

Thank you. It might be. At the moment do not know too much of the family prior to his marriage.

Thank you for looking and have a lovely holiday

Bernie

Bernard

I have searched the birth indexes for all 12 parishes and while there are a lot of Vardons there is no Joseph. Either his birth was not registered or Joe/Joseph was the name he was known by and he was registered as something else.

Do you have his marriage certificate? If there is a father's name on it I may be able to trace him that way.

Corinne

This is your Michael's death

2/11/1864 at 10.45pm at 4, Parade Place, St Helier.
Michael Maloney, aged 75, cause of death, Affection du Couer (something heart related!)
Death notified by Honora Maloney (her mark) present at the death

Thanks for that,sorry I had not got back to you.
Regards Corinne

I'm at the Jersey Archive next week - Tues - if anyone needs anything looked up

Hi jerseylily, whenever i see your name, it brings a little smile to my face for all the help you gave me in the past............x

Hi jerseylily,
I wonder if you could do a marriage look up for me. I have very limited info but will pm names to you. Many thanks for your kind offer.

Hi Jersey,

Not sure if you're still doing the look up. If so, is there any possible that you could find birth/baptism of Gladys Maud Lainey born Oct 1910 please? All I know that her mother was Rosa as stated in 1911 Census. (I couldnt find Rosa's marriage to a Lainey in England either).

Many thanks,

T

Hi T,

Would this be the lady you are looking for?

D/S/A/4/A6698 Registration card of Gladys Maud Kirwan, née Lainey, of 2, Hue Cottages, Hue Street, St Helier, born 19/10/1910, James Edward Kirwan, Joan Maude Kirwan, and Marjorie Ann Kirwan, registered as children on back of card 30/01/1941 - 30/01/1941

I know it's not her birth/baptism but is her Occupation record card, it should have a photo on it.

Were there any other children on the 1911? Only I've found baptisms on www.jerseytrust.jeron.je for Florence 1898, Rosetta Maud 1901 and Catherine Mabel 1903 Lainey. Their parents are Henry Lainey and Rosina Shiner.

I'm working at the Archive on Tues morning so I'll have a look for Gladys's birth then. I'll also look for the marriage record to James Kirwan as I can look at the marriage certificate there to get her father's name.

Edit Just seen your original thread where you say there were no there children in the household so the above 3 would seem to be a red herring!