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Birth certificate for Lewis Jones

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Valerie Sylvia

Valerie Sylvia Report 18 Apr 2014 17:23

Have marriage cert for the above He married in 1874 in Welsh Independent Chapel Chelsea to Catherine Williams. Age for Lewis on this cert is 33, so he was born c.1841/42. He was born in Celynn, Monmouthshire. His fathers name on M C is William Jones. To go any further with this I need his B C for his mothers name. Searched all census records, have found Lewis but still can't trace name of his mother Lewis occupation was Carpenter His father William has occupation as Stone Mason. Lewis and Catherine had first 2 children in Chelsea and then came back to South Wales where they had another 9 children.

patchem

patchem Report 18 Apr 2014 17:45

Have you found Lewis on the 1851 census, and the 1861 and 1871 censuses?

If so, was no mother showing with the family?

Added:
You have put Celynn - where is this, please?

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 18 Apr 2014 18:12

Just putting for ref: Note that on some census Celynin is put as being in Merionethshire.


1881 Wales Census
Name: Lewis Jones
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Catherine Jones
Gender: Male
Where born: Celynin, Monmouth, Wales

Civil Parish: Llandaff
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: 7 Oxford Terrace
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Joiner And Carpenter

Registration district: Cardiff
Sub-registration district: Cardiff

Lewis Jones 39
Catherine Jones 28
Gwelyn Aaron Jones 4
Thomas Lewis Jones 3
Evan Owen Jones 2
Ann Elizabeth Jones 1
Jane Howells 14

patchem

patchem Report 18 Apr 2014 18:15

I looked up Celynin Monmouthshire and found this:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1337342

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 18 Apr 2014 18:15

Wondered about this - William Jones has been missed off, but on image his occupation is that of smith, so probably not yours.

1851 Wales Census
Name: Lewis Jones
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Marry Jones
Gender: Male
Where born: Celynin, Merionethshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Croggennant
County/Island: Merionethshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Dolgelly
Sub-registration district: Talyllyn

Marry Jones 36
Marry Jones 11
Lewis Jones 7
John Jones 3
William Jones 1

patchem

patchem Report 18 Apr 2014 18:22

Unfortunately this William is a farmer:

1851 Wales Census
Lewis Jones Age: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Jones
Mother's name: Anne Jones
Gender: Male Where born: Celynin, Merionethshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Bodgadfan County/Island: Merionethshire Country: Wales
Registration district: Dolgelly Sub-registration district: Talyllyn
ED, institution, or vessel: 6a Piece: 2511 Folio: 184 Page Number: 14
Household schedule number: 46
William Jones 52
Anne Jones 47
David Jones 14
Elinor Jones 12
Lewis Jones 9
Edward Jones 7
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2511; Folio: 184; Page: 14; GSU roll: 104282.

Mike *

Mike * Report 18 Apr 2014 18:23

Might have been better to stick to your original thread

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1337342

Valerie Sylvia

Valerie Sylvia Report 18 Apr 2014 23:35

Many thanks for replies. Have found Lewis in census for 1881/1891/1901 when he was already married Cant find him in census for 1851/1861/1871 when he would have been with parents. His father William is listed as Stone Mason on marriage cert of Lewis. Celynn is listed as Glamorganshire,Monmouthshire and sometimes Merionethshire. I seem to be stuck now on taking this any further

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 18 Apr 2014 23:39

Valerie, please don't post on this thread - do as Mike suggests and go back to the original one.
Jan

patchem

patchem Report 18 Apr 2014 23:40

I do not think it is Celynn, but Celynin. The nearest large town might be useful.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Apr 2014 09:49

You may never find a birth cert for him

Until 1875, there weren't any penalties for not registering

You need to look for a possible baptism

Reg'n district for Celynin is Dolgelly

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Apr 2014 09:50


???????????
Births Jun 1841 (>99%)
Jones Lewis Dolgelly 27 160
Births Sep 1841 (>99%)
JONES Lewis Dolgelly 27 148

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Apr 2014 10:16

Yet another thread about this family:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1338737