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Elizabeth Love

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Patricia

Patricia Report 24 Apr 2014 21:30

She was born in 1851 and lived with the Ruffold family her mother was a Sarah Love Father was William Love.
Would like to find out Why she was living with the Ruffold family and why the family of Ruffolds were payed to look after her. and if anyone has Photos of her.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 24 Apr 2014 21:36

Hello Patricia - where did this happen?

alviegal

alviegal Report 24 Apr 2014 21:55

Ah here she is.


1871 England Census about George Ruffold
Name: George Ruffold
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Esther Ruffold
Gender: Male
Where born: Ash, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: St Leonard Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew Hoxton
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Haggerston West
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 107
Piece: 463
Folio: 14
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
George Ruffold 44
Esther Ruffold 40
Elizabeth Love 19 Relation: Daughter-in-law
Where born: St Luke, Middlesex, England
Ellen Ruffold 15
Rose Ruffold 2 Relation: Granddaughter


This birth has been linked to her though.


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Elizabeth Love
Name: Elizabeth Love
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 16 May 1852
Father's Name: Charles Love
Mother's name: Esther Love
Parish or Poor Law Union: Finsbury St Luke
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers


Esther appears to have been married before. Daughter in law is often used for stepdaughter.



London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Esther Love
Name: Esther Love
Spouse Name: George Ruffold
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 2 May 1855
Parish: Hoxton St John
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Thomas Doe
Spouse Father: Thomas Ruffold
Register Type: Parish Register


It appears that perhaps you are looking at the wrong person?

Mike *

Mike * Report 24 Apr 2014 22:03

As her mother was Esther Love, who presumably became Esther Ruffold, the census should read Step daughter to George not daughter in law.

Where did William and Sarah come into this ?

Mike *

Mike * Report 24 Apr 2014 22:06

Esther's first marriage

Marriages Mar 1851
Doe Esther Shoreditch 2 355
Love Charles Shoreditch 2 355

patchem

patchem Report 24 Apr 2014 22:10

This one has a mother Sarah:

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Elizabeth Love Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 3 May 1851
Mother's name: Sarah Love
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras Old St Pancras
Borough: Camden Register Type: Parish Registers

jax

jax Report 24 Apr 2014 22:11

As there were no penalties before 1874ish for not registering births the one above may not have been registered just baptised.

Maybe Elizabeth with the parents you have mentioned died in childhood?

alviegal

alviegal Report 24 Apr 2014 22:25

???


1851 England Census about Elizabeth Love
Name: Elizabeth Love
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Love
Mother's name: Sarah Love
Gender: Female
Where born: Plumstead, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Greenwich
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Greenwich West
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 113
Piece: 1586
Folio: 348
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
William Love 50
Sarah Love 40
Elizabeth Love 8
Frances Love 6
Susanna Love 4
Harriet Love 2
Matilda Love 1

alviegal

alviegal Report 24 Apr 2014 22:27

This one that Patchem has posted was born in the workhouse.


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Elizabeth Love
Name: Elizabeth Love
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 3 May 1851
Mother's name: Sarah Love
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras Old St Pancras
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 25 Apr 2014 03:04

just to clarify the term 'daughter-in-law' in the census for Patricia

it was quite correct - it was a term used for a stepchild at the time and is often seen in the censuses

(this is the same in French where belle-fille can mean either daughter-in-law or stepdaughter)

and the relationship shown is always to the 'head of household' who was of course always the man

so although she was the daughter of Esther, she is recorded in the census as daughter-in-law (stepdaughter) of the head of household, Esther's second husband

patchem

patchem Report 25 Apr 2014 06:56

Patricia has 2 Elizabeth Loves, 1851, in her tree on here - one birth-place unspecified, the other in London.

So, more information required as to how she got back to Elizabeth.

Mike *

Mike * Report 25 Apr 2014 10:42

The Elizabeth Love living with the Ruffold family is not the same Elizabeth as was born to William and Sarah.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 25 Apr 2014 11:13

As Patricia is a fairly new poster, I will let her know that she has replies to her query :-)