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William Albert Ball

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Sandra

Sandra Report 23 Nov 2014 12:29

Would like information please on WW1 records for William Albert Ball born 1899 Blything, Suffolk, and on 1911 census living Cookley, Suffolk. He was in army and had a leg injury in war
Thanks Sandra

patchem

patchem Report 23 Nov 2014 12:46

Could you confirm his name, as I can see no birth for him (as a Ball) in Suffolk on free bmd?

Thanks

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 23 Nov 2014 13:11

Is this your source??

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
Name: William Arthur Ball
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1899
Age at Enlistment: 17
Residence Place: 49 Cambridge Road, Lowestoft
Document Year: 1916
Regimental Number: 308902
Regiment Name: Army Service Corps (Horse Transport)
Number of Images: 22
Form Title: Short Service Attestation

Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
William Arthur Ball Self (Head)
Helen Ball Mother

Need to look at the image to check about the leg injury.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 23 Nov 2014 13:27

His name is more likely to be Balls, with an S

On 22 Aug 1916, Age 17 years, 11 months – unusually dob is written - 2 Sep 1899
Occ Bricklayer
Army number T/308902 – ASC
Home 22 Aug 1916- 5 Nov 1917
Class W reserve 6 Nov 1917 – 10 Nov 1917
Home 11 Nov 1917 – 12 Nov 1919
(no overseas service)

He served in Dublin were he was considered unfit for Stable work and was being employed as a batman. Letter received in Marlborough Barracks to that effect on 5 Oct 1918

His repeated hospital admission records in Dublin and Galway mention Myalgia. (muscle pain)

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 23 Nov 2014 13:31

1911 census - same address as his MIlitary Records

Name: William Balls
Age in 1911: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Lowestoft, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Lowestoft
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street address: 49 Cambridge Road, Lowestoft
Occupation: School
Registration district: Mutford
Registration District Number: 218
Sub-registration district: Lowestoft
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 415
Piece: 11041

Arthur Balls 40
Ellen Balls 38
William Balls 12
Margaret Balls 10
Frederick Balls 8
Ellen Balls 6
Hilda Balls 4
Stanley Balls 3
Henry Balls 1

Can you please check whether this is the correct person?
Ball??
Balls??

patchem

patchem Report 23 Nov 2014 13:47

Detective,

I think I also looked for Albert William and William Albert born in Blything with any surname.

There is a William without Albert, Balls.

Added:
Arthur or Albert??

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 23 Nov 2014 14:45

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1345700

(William 1901 above?)

Chris :)

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 23 Nov 2014 14:56

If Sandra states that his mother was Florence, then the records I've posted are incorrect. Shame, but there you go!

Assuming that William did serve in the forces, its possible that his records are amongst the 70% destroyed during WW2 bombing?

Unless someone knows differently??

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 23 Nov 2014 15:25

1901 (Find My Past)
Henry Balls Head Married Male 25 1876 Farmers Son? London, Middlesex, England
Florence Balls Wife Married Female 27 1874 - Suffolk, England
William Balls Son - Male 2 1899 - Cookley, Suffolk, England
Victon Balls Son - Male 1 1900 - Cookley, Suffolk, England
Street The Woods
Parish Cookley
County Suffolk
Registration district Blything
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 1794
Folio 16
Page 6

(FMP version of 1901 other 'Thread) (Farmers Son, as Son of William & Harriett top of page?)

Chris :)


Births Jun 1900 (>99%)
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BALLS Victor Blything 4a 1056

(Brother)


Marriages Jun 1898 (>99%)
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Balls Henry Blything 4a 1753
White Florence Blything 4a 1753


1911 (Find My Past)
Harry Balls Head Married Male 55 1856 London Islington Farmers Son Worker
Florence Balls Wife Married Female 35 1876 Suffolk Bungay -
Willie Balls Son - Male 12 1899 Suffolk Cookley
Victor Balls Son - Male 10 1901 Suffolk Cookley
Henry Balls Son - Male 8 1903 Suffolk Cookley
Alex Balls Son - Male 7 1904 Suffolk Cookley
Winnie Balls Daughter - Female 4 1907 Suffolk Cookley
Address Cookley Halesworth
Parish Cookley
County Suffolk
Registration district Blything
Census reference RG14PN10950 RG78PN592 RD216 SD1 ED4 SN25

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 23 Nov 2014 17:11

Births Dec 1898 (>99%)
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Balls William Arthur Mutford 4a 1019


Soldiers died in the Great War 1914-1919 Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) WILLIAM ARTHUR
Last name BALLS
Service number 4958
Rank PRIVATE
Regiment East Surrey Regiment
Battalion 8th Battalion.
Birth place BECCLES, SUFFOLK
Enlistment place BECCLES
Death year 1916
Death day1
Death month 7



Births Dec 1897 (>99%)
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Balls William Victor Blything 4a 983


Rank: Private Service No:3/9106 Date of Death: 18/08/1916
Son of Herbert James and Emily Dale Balls, of Weston Terrace, Wickham Market, Suffolk.



Births Jun 1899 (>99%)
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Balls William Blything 4a 1048

(possible for Son of Henry, Cert. needed for Mother Maiden Name)


edits

(another William Arthur below, could be Birth posted earlier!)

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) WILLIAM ARTHUR
Last name BALLS
Gender Male
Birth day 2
Birth month 9
Birth year 1898
Death quarter 3
Death year 1975
District WAVENEY
County Suffolk
Volume 10
Page 2611


Chris :)


http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

(see what you think from Births on above)

Sandra

Sandra Report 24 Nov 2014 11:43

Chris, the censuses 1901 and 1911 are correct with parents Henry and Florence Balls and brother Victor and also the birth June 1899 Blything, his birthday was 15 March, 1899. William was in war, and had shrapnel injury in leg. He married in 1922 when living Wimbledon, then lived in Wandsworth, he died 1983
Thanks Sandra

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 24 Nov 2014 12:12

Marriages Sep 1922 (>99%)
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BALL William A Long Wandsworth 1d 1215
LONG Gladys V Ball Wandsworth 1d 1215


Death (Find My Past)
First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name BALL
Birth day 15
Birth month 3
Birth year 1899
Death quarter 1
Death year 1983
District WANDSWORTH
County London

(references for those, connection with 'Long' 'Threads')


(wonder where 'A' came in?, expect you have above Marriage Cert.)

Chris :)

(you can have a 'Free Trial' on Ancestry to search their Military, if you google)

Sandra

Sandra Report 25 Nov 2014 09:01

Thanks for that Chris
Sandra