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help finding death cert please

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Keith

Keith Report 26 Dec 2014 15:36

I have managed to find a death for an Isreal Shepherd Pitchford in Warrington was then Lancashire in 1901.....the only place I can find this is on an ancestry site and for a certificate the cheapest option is £22 ..I cannot find it on any other bmd site ..was hoping to pay less than this for the certificate ...anybody any ideas why it is not on any other sites ...or if it is why can I not find it

Rambling

Rambling Report 26 Dec 2014 15:43

This one?

NAME: Israel Pitchford
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1827
REGISTRATION YEAR: 1901
REGISTRATION QUARTER: Oct-Nov-Dec
AGE AT DEATH: 74
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Warrington
PARISHES FOR THIS REGISTRATION DISTRICT: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
INFERRED COUNTY: Lancashire
VOLUME: 8c
PAGE: 154

You can order it from the GRO online ( £9.25) using the volume and page numbers. I can't get on free bmd today to check those numbers but will try againlater if no one else has confirmed them.

Andrew

Andrew Report 26 Dec 2014 15:45

You can order any England and Wales bmd cert from

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

for £9.25. Arrive in post after 5 working days.

No need to use anyone else.


Andy

patchem

patchem Report 26 Dec 2014 16:36

It is on free bmd:

Deaths Dec 1901
Pitchford Israel 74 Warrington 8c 154

Keith

Keith Report 26 Dec 2014 18:01

I cannot seem to find it on free bmd ..I will use those numbers so thank you .I must need new glasses

Andrew

Andrew Report 26 Dec 2014 18:07

Quite some family

Israel S Pitchford 47
Mary Pitchford 45
Laura A Pitchford 22
Joseph Pitchford 19
Elizabeth Pitchford 17
Israel S Pitchford 15
George Pitchford 12
John Pitchford 10
Harold Pitchford 5
Gertrude Pitchford 5
Ethel Pitchford 4
Elsie Pitchford 2
Israel S Pitchford 74


Andy

Amokavid

Amokavid Report 26 Dec 2014 18:08

re Freebmd, Are you putting in the first name correcty, it is ISRAEL, not Isreal as you have spelt it on this thread!

Joan.

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 26 Dec 2014 18:39

Rose Freebmd is working now.....

Jude

Keith

Keith Report 26 Dec 2014 21:45

thanks to everybody . for the information ..I was spelling it wrong ..no wonder I could not find him ..I think the Israel Pitchford married to Mary maybe my ggrandad as the Israel I am looking for only had two children ..I

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 27 Dec 2014 07:42

The younger israel is the son I believe

jude

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 27 Dec 2014 09:25

Israel who died in 1901 also had a fair sized family.

1881


Name: Israel Pitchford
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Catherine Pitchford
Gender: Male
Where born: Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Warrington
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 8 Arthur Street
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Iron Roller
Registration district: Warrington
Sub registration district: Warrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3793
Folio: 20
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
Israel Pitchford 53
Catherine Pitchford 52
Adam Pitchford 28
Jabez Pitchford 21
Laura A. Pitchford 19
Joseph Pitchford 17
Catherine Pitchford 16
Elinor Pitchford 13
Lydia Pitchford 9
Samuel Pitchford 7

Keith

Keith Report 27 Dec 2014 10:34

Hi think I have got lost on this I will have to start again.
.the Israel I am looking for only had two children and his wife was named Ruby ..
they married in Warrington and at a later date moved to Brighton ..I think their children were both born in Warrington in about 1909 and another in about 1912 .
this is so frustrating ..thanks for all the info .

Rambling

Rambling Report 27 Dec 2014 11:21

Keith just for ref this is the 1911 census

NAME: Israel Shephard Pitchford
AGE IN 1911: 25
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1886
RELATION TO HEAD: Head
GENDER: Male
BIRTH PLACE: Warrington, Lancashire, England
CIVIL PARISH: Warrington
COUNTY/ISLAND: Lancashire
COUNTRY: England
STREET ADDRESS: 16 Pinewood Avenue
MARITAL STATUS: Married
OCCUPATION: Wire Drawer
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Warrington
REGISTRATION DISTRICT NUMBER: 459
SUB-REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Warrington
ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 15
PIECE: 23145
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
Israel Shephard Pitchford 25
Ruby May Pitchford 23
Arnold Pitchford 1

Rambling

Rambling Report 27 Dec 2014 11:22

and his death I would think

NAME: Israel Shepherd Pitchford
BIRTH DATE: 3 Apr 1886
DATE OF REGISTRATION: Mar 1976
AGE AT DEATH: 89
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Hove
INFERRED COUNTY: East Sussex
VOLUME: 18
PAGE: 1582

Rambling

Rambling Report 27 Dec 2014 11:28

NAME: Israel Shepherd Pitchford
REGISTRATION YEAR: 1909
REGISTRATION QUARTER: Jan-Feb-Mar
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Warrington
PARISHES FOR THIS REGISTRATION DISTRICT: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
INFERRED COUNTY: Lancashire
VOLUME: 8c
PAGE: 322
RECORDS ON PAGE:
NAME
Ruby May Kean
Israel Shepherd Pitchford
Samuel Price
Ruby May Rean

Rambling

Rambling Report 27 Dec 2014 11:32

This will be parents marriage,

NAME: Israel Shepherd Pitchford
GENDER: Male
AGE: 21
BIRTH DATE: 1855
MARRIAGE DATE: 22 Mar 1876
MARRIAGE PLACE: Warrington, Lancaster, England
FATHER: Israel Shepherd Pitchford
SPOUSE: Mary Maddock
FHL FILM NUMBER: 1562972
REFERENCE ID: v48 p148 rn295

EDITED to correct mistake!

NAME: Eleanor Pitchford
BIRTH DATE: 12 Jul 1867
GENDER: Female
EVENT TYPE: Baptism
FATHER: Israel Shepherd Pitchford <<<<<
MOTHER: Catherine <<<<<<<
BAPTISM DATE: 1 Sep 1867
BAPTISM PLACE: Lancaster, England
DENOMINATION: Wesleyan Methodist
PIECE TITLE: Piece 0028: Warrington Circuit (Wesleyan Methodist): Baptisms and Births, 1837-1870

Keith

Keith Report 27 Dec 2014 12:42

gosh thanks so much ...
rose and every body else ..I had gotten really lost

Rambling

Rambling Report 27 Dec 2014 12:49

Just to round it off, the other son born 1912

Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
Pitchford Bernard Kean Warrington 8c 451

Good luck it with your tree Keith
:-)

mgnv

mgnv Report 27 Dec 2014 21:46

The d.cert you ask abt is your Israel's grandad - here's the 3 marrs:

http://www.shropshirebmd.info/
Shropshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1852
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
PITCHFORD Israel S LUCKOCK Catharine Madeley Register Office or Registrar Attended Shrewsbury RO-B-M/3/58

http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/
Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1876 to 1880
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
PITCHFORD Israel MADDOCK Mary Warrington, St Elphin Warrington C25/10/295
SHEPHERDPITCHFORD Israel MADDOCK Mary Warrington, St Elphin Warrington C25/10/295

Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1909
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
PITCHFORD Israel S KEAN Ruby M Warrington, Methodist Church (Bewsey Road) Warrington A34/2/38

Don't become mislead by Rose's arithmetic short-comings. [EDIT: Rose has fixed this now]

Rambling

Rambling Report 27 Dec 2014 21:56

"arithmetic shortcomings"? mgnv did i miss something?...

oh I see, have removed the incorrect assumption, the lack of a date for one of the census entries posted above evidently threw me and I didn't notice the ages, well I am sure Keith can work it out. :-)