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26 Dec 2014 17:48 |
Charles Dye seems to have been the name given to the eldest son in many generations of my family, but I cannot get further back than my Great Grandfather as there are so many with the same name - and the same middle name (George/Ernest/Samuel). Especially seem to be Norfolk connections with exactly the same names through the generations, including for 2nd sons (Albert Edward) and daughters (Daisy)and even wives (MaryAnn/Elizabeth)! Really can't find which is/are my relatives. My Grandfather was born in London and I think his father too if I have the right C G Dye! Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
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LondonBelle
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26 Dec 2014 18:05 |
What was your granfather's full name, where and when in London was he born? Also who did he marry, where and when? Thanks
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26 Dec 2014 18:19 |
Don't know if this will help but hear goes. Phoebe Dye b1772 m John Brewer b 1775 both Great Yarmouth had a son John Dye Brewer b 1800 m Sophie Waite b 1810. Good Luck. (I'm a Brewer)
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26 Dec 2014 18:32 |
as a starting point perhaps?
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Charles Ernest Dye Name: Charles Ernest Dye Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 23 Jan 1876 Father's Name: Charles George Dye ( occ Carpenter) Mother's name: Mary Ann Dye Parish or Poor Law Union: Hoxton St John Borough: Hackney Register Type: Parish Registers
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26 Dec 2014 18:37 |
For ages
1881 England Census about Chas. Dye Name: Chas. Dye Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relationship to Head: Son Father: Chas. Geo. Dye Mother: Mary Ann Dye Gender: Male Where born: St. Lukes, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St Leonards Shoreditch County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 47 Maria St. Education:
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View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Shoreditch Sub registration district: Haggerston ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 402 Folio: 75 Page Number: 36 Household Members: Name Age Chas. Geo. Dye 28 b shoreditch Mary Ann Dye 27 Twickenham Chas. Dye 5 Daisy Dye 3 View Original Record
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26 Dec 2014 18:48 |
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Daisy Annie Dye Name: Daisy Annie Dye Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 16 Sep 1877 Father's Name: Charles George Dye Mother's name: Mary Ann Dye Parish or Poor Law Union: Hoxton St John Borough: Hackney Register Type: Parish Registers
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26 Dec 2014 18:49 |
To be certain of mother's maiden name you could order this cert
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Daisy Annie Dye Name: Daisy Annie Dye Registration Year: 1877 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Shoreditch Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: London Volume: 1c Page: 99
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26 Dec 2014 18:54 |
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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1875 (>99%) DYE Charles George Shoreditch 1c 255 Phillips Mary Ann Shoreditch 1c 255
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26 Dec 2014 18:57 |
Yes looks likely Charles George is a carpenter London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Mary Ann Phillips Name: Mary Ann Phillips Age: Full Spouse: Charles George Dye Spouse Age: Full Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 7 Mar 1875 Parish: St John, Hoxton Borough: Hackney Father Name: Edward Phillips Spouse Father: Charles Dye >>>>>>>>wheelwright Register Type: Parish Register
Add, one of the witnesses is an Isabella Dye
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26 Dec 2014 19:01 |
This would appear to be the link with Norfolk
1871 England Census about Isabella Dye Name: Isabella Dye Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Charles Dye Mother's name: Martha Dye Gender: Female Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: St Leonard Shoreditch Ecclesiastical parish: St Chad Haggerstone County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Shoreditch Sub-registration district: Haggerston West ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 52 Piece: 463 Folio: 64 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Charles Dye 41 <<<<<<<<<wheelwright Martha Dye 44 Chas Dye 18 Alfred Dye 18 Isabella Dye 11 Jas Dye 9 View Original Record
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26 Dec 2014 19:05 |
1861 England Census about Isabella Dye Name: Isabella Dye Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: 1860 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Charles Dye Mother's name: Martha Dye Gender: Female Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Shoreditch St Leonard Ecclesiastical parish: Haggerston St Mary County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Shoreditch Sub-registration district: Haggerstone West ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 190 Piece: 245 Folio: 41 Page Number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Charles Dye 31 Martha Dye 38 Charles Dye 8 Alfred Dye 8 Frederick Dye 4 Isabella Dye 1 Mary Dye 20 ( sister)
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26 Dec 2014 19:31 |
Could be this one in 1851 as he is a journeyman carpenter.
1851 England Census about Charles Dye Name: Charles Dye Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Relation: Visitor Gender: Male Where born: Marham, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: St Pancras Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Pancras Sub-registration district: Grays Inn Lane ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 44 Piece: 1495 Folio: 313 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Norman 21 Charles Dye 22
Possible Marriages Mar 1852 (>99%) Dye Charles Shoreditch 1c 281 Keates Martha Shoreditch 1c 281
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26 Dec 2014 22:35 |
NAME: Charles Ernest Dye AGE: 13 ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1878 RELATION: Son FATHER'S NAME: Charles George Dye MOTHER'S NAME: Mary Ann Dye GENDER: Male WHERE BORN: Shoreditch, London, England CIVIL PARISH: Shoreditch ECCLESIASTICAL PARISH: Haggerston St Mary TOWN: London COUNTY/ISLAND: London COUNTRY: England STREET ADDRESS:
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View image REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Shoreditch SUB REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Haggerston ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 13 NEIGHBORS: View others on page PIECE: 252 FOLIO: 149 PAGE NUMBER: 29 HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS: NAME AGE Charles George Dye 38 Mary Ann Dye 36 Charles Ernest Dye 13 Daisy Ann Dye 13 Albert Edwd Dye 9
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26 Dec 2014 22:39 |
1901 England Census about Charles Dye Name: Charles Dye Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Mary Ann Birth Place: Hoxton, London, England Civil Parish: Shoreditch St Leonard Ecclesiastical parish: St Chad County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Shoreditch Sub-registration district: Haggerston ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 281 Folio: 29 Page Number: 10 Household schedule number: 61 Household Members: Name Age Charles Dye 48 Mary Ann 41 Daisy Annie 23 Albert Gardener 28 Walter Gerdelstone 20 View Original Record
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26 Dec 2014 23:00 |
1911 England Census about Charles George Dye Name: Charles George Dye Age in 1911: 58 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Haxton, Old Town, Middlesex Civil Parish: Dagenham County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: 47 Kenneth Road, Chadwell Heath, Essex Marital Status: Married Occupation: Railway Roads Checker Registration district: Romford Registration District Number: 191 Sub-registration district: Romford ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Household schedule number: 162 Piece: 9843 Household Members: Name Age Charles George Dye
Possible? England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Charles George Dye Name: Charles George Dye Probate Date: 29 Oct 1920 Death Date: 20 Mar 1920 Death Place: Essex, England Registry: London, England Administration left to Albert edward Dye ( seaman)
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26 Dec 2014 23:05 |
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Albert Edward Dye Name: Albert Edward Dye ( police constable) Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Age: 24 Spouse: Maggie Ann Appleby Spouse Age: 21 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 23 Dec 1906 Parish: St Michael and All Angels, Southfields Borough: Wandsworth Father Name: Charles George Dye (railway checker) Spouse Father: David Appleby Register Type: Parish Register
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27 Dec 2014 08:11 |
PM received from Inez
My Grandfather was Charles Ernest Dye, born on Moxton New Town,Middlesex18/12/1875. He was in the British Army & married my Grandmother there in 1905. He died there in 1920. His Father was Charles George Dye, born c1853 who married a Mary Ann Phillips on 7/3/1875 at St John the Baptist Church, Shoreditch. I can't trace her family (too many names the same) or any further back on Charles George. Thank you
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27 Dec 2014 08:35 |
For info the birth date given for Charles Ernest on the image of the baptism of Rambling Rose post of 18:32 is 18/12/1875 and address is 29 Forston St
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27 Dec 2014 09:11 |
The address given for both Charles G and Mary Ann on their Marriage Cert is 43 Maria St which is the same address on the 1871 census for Charles and Martha (19:01 post above)
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27 Dec 2014 22:28 |
Thanks for all the various lots of information. I think the Charles Dye age 22, journeyman carpenter, in the 1851 census must be a different one as he was born in Norfolk and according to the other record you sent me Charles George was born in London. Daisy and Albert are definitely my G/Aunt & Uncle as I know about them. Have Daisy's husband's name and their death records, but again have 2 different wives for Albert!
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