Find Ancestors

Top tip - using the Genes Reunited community

Welcome to the Genes Reunited community boards!

  • The Genes Reunited community is made up of millions of people with similar interests. Discover your family history and make life long friends along the way.
  • You will find a close knit but welcoming group of keen genealogists all prepared to offer advice and help to new members.
  • And it's not all serious business. The boards are often a place to relax and be entertained by all kinds of subjects.
  • The Genes community will go out of their way to help you, so don’t be shy about asking for help.

Quick Search

Single word search

Icons

  • New posts
  • No new posts
  • Thread closed
  • Stickied, new posts
  • Stickied, no new posts

Lizzie Rawes 1921 Pontefract

ProfilePosted byOptionsPost Date

Peter

Peter Report 26 Dec 2014 22:05

Does anyone have any connections to Lizzie Rawes (Rawes/Coward) who was born in Pontefract in November 1921 but then adopted in early 1922 by William and Lily Linsley and named Rene Linsley? I've just discovered that this was my Mother's birth name and would really like to trace her background.
Thanks
Peter Claridge

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 26 Dec 2014 22:35

Hi there Peter - welcome to the boards

to discover any connections to Lizzie, use "Search" top right hand corner of this page to see if she is any other trees on this site - if you strike lucky you can contact the tree owner through the site

Ann xxxxx

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 26 Dec 2014 22:36

Name: Lizzie Rawes
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1921
Registration District: Pontefract
County: Yorkshire
Event Place: Pontefract, Yorkshire, England
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3): Coward
Volume: 9C
Page: 248
Line Number: 147

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 Dec 2014 22:53

For background.......you could start with the probable marriage of her parents

First name(s) JANET M
Last name COWARD
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1914
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ JANET M COWARD married
JOHN H RAWES
Spouse's last name RAWES
District KENDAL
District number -
County Westmorland
Country England
Volume 10B

Do you have her original birth cert?

She had siblings, it would seem


Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
Rawes May H Coward Kendal 10b 1400 Scan available - click to view


Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Rawes Thomas Coward Kendal 10b 1725 Scan available - click to view


Births Mar 1921 (>99%)
Rawes Dan S Coward Worksop 7b 76 Scan available - click to view


Births Dec 1921 (>99%)
RAWES Lizzie Coward Pontefract 9c 248

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Dec 2014 22:57

Welcome to the boards Peter

Using the free search site http://www.freebmd.org.uk
we all do) here is the birth of Lizzie. Use from September Qtr 1837 when Registration first began up to about 1960 or so at present - it's an ongoing project

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Dec 1921 (>99%)
RAWES Lizzie Coward Pontefract 9c 248

From this you can see he mother's maiden name (Coward) and then use the same site to look for a marriage Rawes to Coward. There is only the one possibility showing

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page

Marriages Dec 1914 (>99%)
COWARD Janet M Rawes Kendal 10b 1477
RAWES John H Coward Kendal 10b 1477

There are then 4 possible births, the family moved around! 6 weeks to register a birth makes the 2 1921 birth registrations possible if the Mar. Qtr one was born late 1920

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
Rawes May H Coward Kendal 10b 1400
Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Rawes Thomas Coward Kendal 10b 1725
Births Mar 1921 (>99%)
Rawes Dan S Coward Worksop 7b 76
Births Dec 1921 (>99%)
RAWES Lizzie Coward Pontefract 9c 248

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 Dec 2014 22:57

Second marriage for her mother?

First name(s) JANET M
Last name RAWES
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1924
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ JANET M RAWES married
HERBERT HEATON
Spouse's last name HEATON
District DONCASTER
District number -
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 9C
Page 1685

And death?

HEATON JANET M 1886 1956 1956 Deaths & burials Doncaster, Yorkshire, England

Birth


Births Jun 1886 (>99%)
COWARD Janet May Kendal 10b 735

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 Dec 2014 23:00

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Beech Street, Applethwaite, Kendal, Westmorland, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Hartley Coward Head Married Male 27 1864 General Labourer Lancashire, England Transcription
Elizabeth Coward Wife Married Female 34 1857 - Applethwaite, Westmorland, England Transcription
Janet M Coward Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Windermere, Westmorland, England Transcription
Sarah W Coward Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Windermere, Westmorland, England Transcription
- Coward Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Windermere, Westmorland, England

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 Dec 2014 23:02

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Jerry Cottages, Deer Park, Preston Richard, Kendal, Westmorland, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Henry Dennison Head Married Male 31 1860 General Labourer Westmorland, England Transcription
Eliz Dennison Wife Married Female 31 1860 - Westmorland, England Transcription
John Dennison Son Single Male 7 1884 Scholar Old Hutton, Westmorland, England Transcription
Mary E Dennison Daughter Single Female 5 1886 - Westmorland, England Transcription
John H Rawes Boarder Single Male 5 1886 - Milnthorpe, Westmorland, England Transcription
Robert Rawes Boarder Single Male 19 1872 General Labourer Stanton, Westmorland, England

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 Dec 2014 23:07


Births Sep 1885 (>99%)
Rawes John Henry Kendal 10b 730

No death for him on freebmd, but there is this....................on FMP. although I can't match it on CWGC site


First name(s) JOHN HENRY
Last name RAWES
Service number 22059
Rank L/CPL
Regiment King's Own (Yorkshire Light Infantry)
Battalion 10th Battalion.
Birth place ENDMOOR, WESTMORELAND
Residence -
Enlistment place KENDAL
Death year 1916
Death day 30
Death month 9
Cause of death Died of wounds
Death place France & Flanders

If the man who died in 1916 was Janet's husband, questions are raised about the father(s) of the three children registered as Rawes with MMN Coward born after that year

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 Dec 2014 23:14

CWGC have the initials as G H, and his rank as full cpl

RAWES, G H

Rank:Corporal
Service No:22059
Date of Death:30/09/1916
Regiment/Service:King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry 10th Bn.
Grave Reference: I. K. 33.
Cemetery:GROVE TOWN CEMETERY, MEAULTE

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Dec 2014 23:15

Jacqueline's find (John Henry) looks a good possibility as Endmoor given as the place of birth on the service record is only 3 miles from Milnthorpe given on the census as his pob

END-MOOR, a hamlet in Preston-Richard township, Heversham parish, Westmoreland; on the river Beetha, 3¼ miles NE of Milnthorpe.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 Dec 2014 23:17

First name(s) John H
Last name Rawes
Service number 22059
Rank Private, Acting Corporal
Corps Yorkshire Light Infantry
Service record Soldier Number: 22059, Rank: Private, Corps: Yorkshire Light Infantry
Service record 2 Soldier Number: 22059, Rank: Acting Corporal, Corps: Yorkshire Light Infantry
Archive reference WO372/16
Archive reference description Campaign Medal Index Cards and Silver War Badge Cards
Image link http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D4791645
Country Great Britain
Record set World War One British Army medal index cards
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Record collection First World War
Collections from Great Britain

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 Dec 2014 23:19

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
New Row, Stainton, Kendal, Westmorland, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Rawes Head Married Male 59 1822 General Labourer Old Hutton, Westmorland, England Transcription
Isabella Rawes Wife Married Female 37 1844 - Kendal, Westmorland, England Transcription
John Rawes Son Single Male 12 1869 Scholar Stainton, Westmorland, England Transcription
Robert Rawes Son Single Male 10 1871 Scholar Stainton, Westmorland, England Transcription
James Rawes Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar Stainton, Westmorland, England Transcription
Richard Wilson Step Son Single Male 4 1877 Scholar Milnthorpe, Westmorland, England Transcription
Ester H Rawes Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - Stainton, Westmorland, England Transcription
Mary A Rawes Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Stainton, Westmorland, England

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 26 Dec 2014 23:20


Marriages Jun 1878 (>99%)
RAWES John Kendal 10b 1021
WILSON Isabella Kendal 10b 1021

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Dec 2014 23:21

UK, WWI Service Medal and Award Rolls, 1914-1920 about John Henry Rawes

NAME: John Henry Rawes
MILITARY YEAR: 1914-1920
RANK: Acting Corporal
MEDAL AWARDED: British War Medal and Victory Medal
REGIMENT OR CORPS: King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry
REGIMENTAL NUMBER: 22059
PREVIOUS UNITS: 22059 A/Cpl 10th Yorks L.I.
OTHER RECORDS: Search for 'John Henry Rawes' in other WWI collections

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 26 Dec 2014 23:34

message sent to Peter to return

patchem

patchem Report 27 Dec 2014 00:29

As you are looking for connections to Lizzie Rawes, have you put her in your tree on here, and looked to see if she or her birth parents are in anyone's tree, and then tried to make contact?

Peter

Peter Report 31 Dec 2014 18:08

Thanks everyone for the helpful pointers. Once the Festive Season is over I'll have to start following the leads!
Happy New Year
Peter