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Michael

Michael Report 30 Jun 2015 21:36

Searching for Fred Green b c 1885 in London parents George Arthur Green and Louisa Green also Albert / Edward Green b c1892 also London . I have them on 1901 and 1911 censuses but as yet cannot trace birth certs. Does anyone have these birth certs or were they given different birth names ? Michael

malyon

malyon Report 30 Jun 2015 21:47

have they any middle names

Michael

Michael Report 30 Jun 2015 21:51

I do not know , sadly not even what their actual names were .

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Jun 2015 22:05

Please post 1901/1911 census - it will be much easier than us having to trawl through all the Green's in London to see if any family "fits the bill"

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 30 Jun 2015 22:05

Is this the family in 1901?


Fred Green

in the 1901 England Census
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Name: Fred Green
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation to Head: Son (Child)
Gender: Male
Father: George Green
Mother: Louisa Green
Birth Place: St Pancras, London, England
Civil Parish: Hanwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Hanwell St Mary
Town: Hanwell
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Acton
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1206
Folio: 102
Page Number: 28
Household schedule number: 156
Household Members:
Name Age
George Green 53
Louisa Green 49
Clifford Green 21
Herbert Green 19
Fred Green 16
Augustus Green 14
Rose Green 8
Albert Green 7
Charles Green 26
Annie Green 26
Ellen Green 1

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 30 Jun 2015 22:08

For INFO..............

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
61, Graham Gardens, Hanwell, Brentford, Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Green Head Married Male 53 1848 Surgical Instrument Maker Westminster, Middlesex, England Transcription
Louisa Green Wife Married Female 49 1852 - Chelsea, Middlesex, England Transcription
Clifford Green Son Single Male 21 1880 Plasterer Westminster, Middlesex, England Transcription
Herbert Green Son Single Male 19 1882 Plasterer Marylebone, Middlesex, England Transcription
Fred Green Son - Male 16 1885 Labourer Navvy St Pancras, Middlesex, England Transcription
Augustus Green Son - Male 14 1887 Labourer Navvy London, England Transcription
Rose Green Daughter - Female 8 1893 - Willesden, Middlesex, England Transcription
Albert Green Son - Male 7 1894 - Willesden, Middlesex, England Transcription
Charles Green Son Married Male 26 1875 Plasterer Chelsea, Middlesex, England Transcription
Annie Green Daughter-In-Law Married Female 26 1875 - Andover, Hampshire, England Transcription
Ellen Green Grand Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Battersea, Middlesex, England Transcription

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 30 Jun 2015 22:09

Have you done the most obvious search?

Looked for a marriage for the parents?

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 30 Jun 2015 22:13

GREEN AUGUSTUS 1886 — 1886 Births & baptisms Pancras, London, England


GREEN GEORGE HERBERT 1882 — 1882 Births & baptisms Marylebone, London, England

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 30 Jun 2015 22:15

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
47, Up Marylebone Street, St Marylebone, Marylebone, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Green Head Married Male 32 1849 Surgical Inst Maker Southwark, Surrey, England Transcription
Louisa Green Wife Married Female 29 1852 Laundress Chelsea, Middlesex, England Transcription
Emily Green Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Blakeley, Lancashire, England Transcription
Chas C H Green Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Chelsea, Middlesex, England Transcription
Clifford Green Son Single Male 1 1880 - Westminster, Middlesex, England Transcription

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Jun 2015 22:16

??? born 12.12.1894. Address looks like 4 Nelson Place, ? Steyne. Father a Labourer

Albert George Green in the London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
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Name: Albert George Green
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 10 Feb 1895
Father's name: Albert George Green
Mother's name: Louisa Green
Parish or Poor Law Union: Acton St Mary
Borough: Ealing
Register Type: Parish Registers

EDIT - probably not if above census are correct and Father is an Instrument maker!!

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 30 Jun 2015 22:16

None of them show up on London births & baptisms.

Edit: Oops, that one did show up, greyghost but father was Albert George and was just a labourer whereas George was a surgical instrument maker on the censuses. Quite a difference!

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 30 Jun 2015 22:17

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1871
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
GREEN Emily Blackley Archives+, Manchester Central Library BLA/10/93

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 30 Jun 2015 22:19

The father's occ is shown on the census........NOT a labourer

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 30 Jun 2015 22:25

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Rochdale Road Charlestown, Blackley, Manchester, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Green Head - Male 25 1846 - Surrey, England Transcription
Louisa Green Wife - Female 19 1852 - Chelsea, England Transcription
Emily Green Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Lancashire, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Jun 2015 22:32

Well Jacqueline, I posted that baptism before I saw the census with the Fathers occupation and as the poster was unsure of dates and names and hasn't returned to confirm the correct family, or post the census he has found them on............. I did EDIT when I realised that I had more than likely made a mistake.

Presumably the poster has worked back to these people somehow, but has only picked 2 names from at least 10 children.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 30 Jun 2015 22:38

Your edit wasn't in place when I posted..................

IF the poster returns, perhaps we'll have more to go on ;-)

malyon

malyon Report 30 Jun 2015 22:58


William Charles Green
England and Wales Birth Registration Index
Name: William Charles Green
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1875
Registration District: Chelsea
County: London
Event Place: Chelsea, London, England

malyon

malyon Report 30 Jun 2015 23:02

seems to me they go by their second names


George Herbert Green
England and Wales Birth Registration Index
Name: George Herbert Green
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year: 1882
Registration District: Marylebone
County: London
Event Place: Marylebone, London, England
Volume: 1A
Page: 549
Line Number: 193

malyon

malyon Report 30 Jun 2015 23:07

Albert Edward Green
England and Wales Birth Registration Index
Name: Albert Edward Green
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1894
Registration District: Pancras
County: London
Event Place: Pancras, London, England

malyon

malyon Report 30 Jun 2015 23:09

Clifford Green
United Kingdom, Militia Service Records
Name: Clifford Green
Event Type: Military Service
Event Year Range: 1806-1915
Event Place: United Kingdom
Birthplace: Middlesex
Birth Year (Estimated): 1880