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Hi, I'm looking for any reference to my grandmother Florence Hetti Snell born 9th December ?1886 in Poplar (London).

The family were Watermen I think and I found her in the 1901 census living with her aunt (Mary Snell) and uncle (George Baker) in Hampton Middx. RG13/671

I'd like to find her in the 1891 census - but I don't know her parents' names !
And if possible - her birth registration,
Thanks,
Yvonne

have you got this information from one of your parents ?

Can you post the actual census details please Yvonne, if Mary Snell is Florence's aunt it would help to know her age so we can work back to find her siblings.

Is this them

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Chapel Cottage, 1, High Street, Hampton, Hampton (Middlesex), Kingston, Surrey, England


George Baker Head Married Male 45 1856 Pit Labourer Hampton, Middlesex, England
Mary Baker Wife Married Female 47 1854 - Hampton, Middlesex, England
William Baker Son Single Male 24 1877 Pit Labourer Hampton, Middlesex, England
Florence Baker Niece Single Female 15 1886 Servant (Domestic) Poplar, Middlesex, England

found her on the 1911
Florence Hettie Snell born Poplar
aged 23 single
two children
Bertha Winifred Snell aged 2 born Clerkenwell
George Frederick Snell aged 6 months born Shepherds Bush
No occupation - allowance
living 31 Porter Houses Brook Green

I'd be inclined to think that Florence Baker is just that, a Baker rather than Snell?

There is a Florence Harriet ( Hetti?) Snell born 1883 which seems more likely?

Births Dec 1883 (>99%)

SNELL Florence Harriet Faringdon 2c 268

EDIT cross posted, so maybe not...but I can't see an obvious birth in Poplar?

Bertha was registered in Holborn in 1909

there is also a marriage for
Florence H Snell to a William T Stapleton
1915 Paddington

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1345458?d=asc&page=1

(is she the one on above?)

Chris :)


Mary Report 13 Oct 2014 19:49

Anyone found Florence in 1891??

Maryb.


patchem Report 13 Oct 2014 19:59

Anyone found a birth for Florence - which is why I said the marriage and birth certificate of the aunt would be useful?


Marriages Jun 1878 (>99%)
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BAKER George Henry Kingston 2a 432
xxxxxOBURNE Mary Ann S S Kingston 2a 432
SNELL Mary Ann S Kingston 2a 432


patchem Report 13 Oct 2014 07:45

Possible birth for aunt:

Births Sep 1854
SNELL Mary Ann Sarah Kingston 2a 167


Deaths Jun 1929 (>99%)
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Baker Mary A S 74 Kingston 2a 601

(possible)

FindMyPast version of 1911


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Florence Hettie Snell Head Single Female No Occupation 23 1888 Poplar London
Bertha Winifred Snell Daughter - Female - 2 1909 Clerkenwell
George Frederick Snell Son - Male - 0 1911 Shepherds Bush
Florence Mable Snell Nurse Girl Single Female Nurse Domestic 16 1895 Stowerprovost Dorset

Thanks Chris,

FWIW someone might like to look at this and work forward on the offchance, as it's a waterman's widow and family

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
New Street, Hampton, Kingston, Surrey, England

Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Ann Snell Daughter - Female 6 1855 Scholar Claygate, Surrey, England Transcription
Henry Snell Son - Male 5 1856 Scholar Claygate, Surrey, England
Jane Sarah Snell Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Claygate, Surrey, England Transcription
Sarah Jane Snell Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Claygate, Surrey, England
Marg Snell Head Widow Female 55 1806 Watermans Widow Hammersmith, Middlesex, England
Mary Ann Snell Daughter Unmarried Female 33 1828 Servant Allwork Hampton, Middlesex, England
Henry Snell Son Unmarried Male 21 1840 Water Man Hampton, Middlesex, England
Jane Snell Daughter Unmarried Female 19 1842 Dressmaker Hampton, Middlesex, England
Margaret Snell Daughter - Female 14 1847 Scholar Hampton, Middlesex, England

Thank you for the help - particularly the possible date for Florence birth in Farringdon and the Waterman info.
Mary Snell , the aunt was born 18th Sept 1854 and was married on 12th June 1878 in Hampton - Kingston 2a/432 is correct.
I think I have found 1 sibling -William James Snell 1852 -1933 (Kingston 154/2a) and I have a lot of info about his children - but I can't find any more siblings

Yvonne ...............

I do not think that your question has been fully answered

Am I correct in that assumption???

Unfortunately, you have ticked a post as answered .............. and that shows on the list of threads as that no further help is required, and no-one needs to read it.

Unfortunately, it is also a quirk of GR, that a tick once made cannot be unticked.

All you can do now is to edit the heading to add Help still needed.

Just click edit on your OP and the post with heading will appear in a separate screen.

Just make the correction to the heading, and then click Submit

Thank you - you are correct I still need help!

It seems to be the missing 1891?...

(think other 'Thread' needs reading through too, for background)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1345458?d=asc

Chris :)

Snell family 1841

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Thames Street, Hampton, Kingston, Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
John Snell Male 35 1806 Middlesex, England Waterman
Mary Snell Female 25 1816 Middlesex, England
Mary Snell Female 13 1828 Middlesex, England
John Snell Male 10 1831 Middlesex, England
Wm Snell Male 6 1835 Middlesex, England
Henry Snell Male 2 1839 Middlesex, England

Following the theory that Watermen pass the trade down the family and stay in the same area , There's a Florence E here , ????

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
River Hill Cottages, Plevna Road, Hampton, Kingston, Surrey, England


William James Snell Head Married Male 30 1861 Bange Waterman Hampton, Middlesex, England Transcription
Mary Ann Snell Wife Married Female 28 1863 - Shepperton, Middlesex, England
Arthur H Snell Son Single Male 11 1880 Scholar Hampton, Middlesex, England
Charles W Snell Son Single Male 8 1883 Scholar Hampton, Middlesex,
Florence E Snell Daughter - Female 6 1885 Scholar Hampton, Middlesex, England
Albert V Snell Son - Male 4 1887 Scholar Hampton, Middlesex,
Ada G Snell Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Hampton, Middlesex,

EDIT NO scrub that she is Florence Eleanor

Thanks. I think these are my relatives and I wonder if my grandmother's family moved down river to Poplar for a short while ? 1891.
I need to find William Snell's sibs - his sister Mary Ann married to George Baker and sh's the aunt my grandmother lived with in 1901.
I know nothing of my gt grandparents but I guess one of them was a Snell
Thanks again

(so somewhere another surname below featured!)

Chris :)


Yvonne Report 28 Oct 2014 22:04

I have the birth certificate for the aunt - Mary Anne Sarah SNELL born 18 Sept 1854 in Hampton - but no father registered. Her mother was Mary Ann SNELL..
The wedding certificate for MAS Snell to George Henry Baker in Hampton on June 11th 1878 names her father as Francis Oburne - deceased.

I can't find any links to Francis Oburne - andI think I need that to get my grandmother's - Florence's mother or father's name I think?


Marriages Jun 1878 (>99%)
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BAKER George Henry Kingston 2a 432
xxxxxOBURNE Mary Ann S S Kingston 2a 432
SNELL Mary Ann S Kingston 2a 432


(for 1841 posted above, perhaps)

West Middlesex Marriage Index Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) JOHN
Last name SNELL
Marriage year 1828
Marriage day 8
Marriage month Jun
Place HAMPTON
Groom's first name(s) John
Groom's last name SNELL
Bride's first name(s) Mary Anne
Bride's last name IVES
County Middlesex

(notes age of Mary differs on Census!, 1851 has 1799, 1861 has 1806)