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thomas leatherland married sarah a lineker in 1863 in nottingham

they had 2 children before marriage thomas 1859 and amy 1861

in 1869 they had arthur leatherland

i think i have found them in 1871 all under leatherland and amy down as annie

in 1881 thomas leatherland born about 1837 is with his son thomas lineker

still in nottingham no sign of sarah

after looking on yhe new gro with mothers mm

i think i have found another child to thomas and sarah

james leatherland born 1877 nottingham

so please can anyone find anything on james or sarah

thank you

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1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Wood Street, St Mary, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Leatherland Head - Male 34 1837 - Nottinghamshire, England
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Sarah A Leatherland Wife - Female 30 1841 - Nottinghamshire, England
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Thomas Leatherland Son - Male 12 1859 - Nottinghamshire, England
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Annie Leatherland Daughter - Female 10 1861 - Nottinghamshire, England
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Arthur Leatherland Son - Male 1 1870 - Nottinghamshire, England
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he was a labourer

amy

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
7, Annesley Street, Nottingham St Mary, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

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Henry Hastings Head Married Male 45 1836 Cordwainer Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
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Sabina Hastings Wife Married Female 49 1832 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
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Matilda H Hastings Daughter Single Female 17 1864 Lace Folder Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
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Emily H Hastings Daughter Single Female 14 1867 Lace Mender Derbyshire, England
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Ellen M Hastings Daughter Single Female 12 1869 Scholar Derbyshire, England
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Henry I Hastings Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Derbyshire, England
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Rose A Hastings Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Derbyshire, England
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Sabina E Hastings Daughter Single Female 20 1861 Lace Folder Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
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Amy Letherland Boarder Single Female 21 1860 Lace Mender Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
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Hi
Thank you for the info that's what I found and I think it's right

But they seem to be very hard to find after

A tree on Ancestry says that Thomas married Ann Lineker and had 5 children:
Thomas, 1859
Annie, 1861
Mary, 1865
John, 1868
Arthur, 1870

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Name Sarah Ann Leatherland
Event Type Death
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year 1873
Registration District Radford
County Nottinghamshire
Event Place Radford, Nottinghamshire, England
Volume 7B
Page 136
Line Number 353

Could this be Arthur in 1881?

Arthur Letherland

in the 1881 England Census
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Name: Arthur Letherland
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relationship to Head: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Nottingham St Mary
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address: 16 Independent Hill

Occupation: Serv
Registration district: Nottingham
Sub registration district: Byron
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3359
Folio: 47
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
William Atkin 30
Kate Atkin 26
Sarah A. Atkin 5
Arthur Letherland 12

thomas junior married by 1881
Name: Thomas Lineker
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Jane Lineker
Father: Thomas Leatherland
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Nottingham St Mary
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address: 35 Bromley St
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Whip Maker
Registration district: Nottingham
Sub registration district: Byron
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3359
Folio: 98
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Lineker 21
Jane Lineker 21
Matilda Lineker 3
Thomas Leatherland 47
Ellen Smith 27
Ellen Smith 5

I do think the tree on ancestry is wrong the Ann linker is still unmarried and lives with someone else a Cornelius someone I checked it all out and sent the person on ancestry a message but he didn't think he had gone wrong


Maddie all the census you have found is what I have come up with will have to look into that death for Sarah


More money but I think it's the only way to find out

Thank you for all the info so far

Anything on James I looked on the ground site and greens for a death but could not find one

1901 ???
Name: James Litherland
[James Leatherland]
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Louisa Litherland
Birth Place: Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Ashby Woulds
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Ecclesiastical parish: Donisthorpe St John
Town: Moira
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Ashby-de-la-Zouch
Sub-registration district: Ashby-de-la-Zouch
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2971
Folio: 159
Page Number: 45
Household schedule number: 240
Household Members:
Name Age
James Litherland 23
Louisa Litherland 43
Horace Cashmore 11
Bertram Cashmore 7


1911

Name: James Leatherland
Age in 1911: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Nottinghamshire
Civil Parish: Conisbrough
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County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street address: 38 North Cliff Rd Conisbro Rotherham
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Coal Miner (Filler)
Registration district: Doncaster
Registration District Number: 512
Sub-registration district: Barnbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Piece: 28161
Household Members:
Name Age
James Leatherland 33
Souisa Leatherland 53
Betram Cashmore 17 ---- stepson
Ivy Cashmore 7


married 12 years no children born

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Name: James Leatherland
Birth Date: abt 1878
Date of Registration: Sep 1939
Age at Death: 61
Registration district: Don Valley
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 936

Thank you Maddie <3

Name: James Leatherland
Registration Year: 1899
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Ashby de la Zouch
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 7a
Page: 128
Records on Page:
Name
Louisa Cashmor ------------
Maria Cashmore
James Leatherland ---------------
Joseph Meller
Joseph Mellor
Joseph Miller
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If James was born to Thomas and Sarah then Sarah cannot of died in eighteen seventy three

But she seems to of disappeared

Here is Louisa, James' widow in 1939.

Leatherland Household (2 People) 4 Athelstane Road , Conisbrough U.D., Yorkshire (West Riding), England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Louisa Leatherland 24 Mar 1857 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 183 1
Maria Cashmore 01 Feb 1880 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 183 2


On September 29th, 1939, the personal details - including names, dates of birth, occupations, marital statuses - of 41 million individuals were recorded.

Thank you <3

There is an article in the newspaper.

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06 September 1881 - Nottingham Evening Post - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Now I'm not saying it is your Sarah Leatherland, but it is a middle aged destitute woman who was charged with abandoning her child.

A Police Officer had found the child, wrapped in a coat, lying in an ash pit, amongst the rubbish. The mother appeared after about 40 mins and lay down beside the child. She claimed to live there and had no means of subsistence. The Town Missionary said he had known her for some years and she was sent to the workhouse.


It is a very sad story and if it is Sarah, perhaps she had left Thomas and the child was James?

More than likely, they are entirely different people.

Thank you
Is there anyway I can find out about this Sarah

How would I find out

Just to update anyone watching this thread Sarah Leatherland and her son James was admitted to Nottingham Workhouse on 6th Sept 1881 so the newspaper report that alviegal mentioned above must have been Sarah.

Nottingham Evening Post - Friday 03 November 1882

NEGLECT OF FAMILY
Thomas Leatherland was charged with neglecting to maintain his wife and family. Mr Howard, clerk to the Board of Guardians prosecuted and the prisoner was committed for 21 days