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John Green b1887 Aston, Birmingham, Warwickshire

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Deborah

Deborah Report 11 Oct 2014 08:38

Hi I am looking for more information on the ancestors of my grandfather John Green. John was married to Sarah Village (known as Sally). They lived at 3/51 Gladstone Terrace, Small Heath, Birmingham. Their children were, Violet, Emma, John (Jack), Jenny(Ginny), Alice, Gert, Ronnie and Iris. Do you have knowledge of this family? ;-)

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 11 Oct 2014 08:42

Only someone connected would 'have' knowledge, so look in search all trees to find if anyone has him in a GR tree.

Otherwise, research is necessary

If you obtain the marriage cert, you'll find out if he knew his father's name

With such a common name, you will almost certainly need to purchase copy documents.

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The marriage took place in JAS qtr 1910

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 11 Oct 2014 08:47

1911 census has no record of where John was born

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 11 Oct 2014 08:49

This MIGHT be him in 1901, but until you get some documentary evidence, don't take it as fact.

His occupation in 1911 was Galvaniser

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Court, 5, Lower Trinity Street, Aston, Warwickshire, England

Print transcription View image Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Emma Green Head Married Female - - Tin Screw Wormer Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Transcription
Charles Green Son Single Male 20 1881 Galvaniser Iron Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Transcription
John Green Son Single Male 14 1887 Blacksmith Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Transcription
Mary Green Daughter Single Female 23 1878 Brass Polisher Cabinet Fittings Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Transcription
Emma Green Daughter - Female 16 1885 Brass Polisher Cabinet Fittings Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Transcription
William Green Grand Son - Male 2 1899 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 11 Oct 2014 08:50

The same family in 1891..............when you get the marriage cert, you'll be able to cross-refer

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Cheapside, Bordesley, Aston, Warwickshire, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Green Head Married Male 33 1858 Tin Plate Worker Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Transcription
Emma Green Wife Married Female 32 1859 Screw Worker Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Transcription
Mary A Green Daughter - Female 13 1878 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Transcription
William Green Son - Male 12 1879 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Transcription
Charles Green Son - Male 10 1881 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Transcription
Emma Green Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Transcription
John Green Son - Male 4 1887 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Transcription

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GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 11 Oct 2014 08:52

The marriage details are on ~Ancestry but she is shown as MAGE. Have done a name correction to show as Village

Father of John is shown as William - occupation Iron plate worker

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Oct 2014 01:20

here's the marriage from ancestry, as mentioned by GB ....



Birmingham, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937 about John Green

Name: John Green
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 25 Jul 1910
Marriage Age: Of Full Age
Marriage Place: Deritend, St Gabriel, Warwickshire, England
Spouse: Sarah Mage
Spouse Gender: Female
Spouse Marriage Age: Of Full Age
Father: William Green
Spouse's Father: Charles Mage
Reference Number: EP2/2/3/7
Archive Roll: M155



from the image ..............

Saint Gabriels Church, in the Parish of Saint Gabriel, Birmingham

John
Bachelor
Of Full Age
Occupation:- Galvanizer
Address:- Oxford Street
Father occupation:- Ironplate Worker

Sarah
Spinster
Of Full Age
no occupation shown
Address:- Oxford Street
Father occupation:- Blacksmith (deceased)


Witnesses:- Edward Hanson and Florrie Bennett



I have no idea where the transcriber got "Deritend" from!!!


and it is very clearly "Village" not Mage

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Oct 2014 01:33

just out of interest, this is the 1911 Census ...... Sarah Village age 52 filled it out, but did not give birthplaces for any one


1911 Census

Name: John Green
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Son-in-law
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address: 3 Whitby Place St Andrews Rd Bham
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Galvanizer
Registration district: Aston
Registration District Number: 385
Sub-registration district: Deritend
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Piece: 18173

Sarah Village 52
John Green 24
Sarah Green 23
William Johnson 21 Son-in-law, Galvanizer
Emily Johnson 18
Florrie Johnson 1

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Oct 2014 03:23

?????????????????


It is Emma, not Euma, on the image, BUT the father's occupation is wrong?



Warwickshire, England, Baptisms, 1813-1910 about John Green

Name: John Green
Parish: Aston Cantlow
Baptism Date: 13 Aug 1882
Father's Name: William Green
Mother's name: Euma Green



Father occupation:- Labourer
Address:- Aston Cantelow



NO NO NO


This is this family on the 1891 Census ................. William is a Quarryman in a stone quarry


1891 Census

Name: John Green
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Green
Mother's name: Emma Green
Gender: Male
Where born: Aston Cantlow, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston Cantlow
Ecclesiastical parish: Aston Cantlow
Town: Aston Cantlow
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Alcester
Sub-registration district: Alcester
ED, institution, or vessel: 6

Piece: 2481
Folio: 76
Page Number: 6

William Green 37 Quarryman (Stone)
Emma Green 35
William Green 12
Harry Green 8
John Green 8
Margaret Green 5
Agnes Sarah Green 2
Harriet Green 0

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 12 Oct 2014 09:13

St Gabriel's Church was in Deritend......... a part of Birmingham

It opened in 1869 and closed in 1945

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Cynthia

Cynthia Report 12 Oct 2014 16:46

Hello Deborah and welcome to the Community boards.




(I'll let Deborah know how to find her replies) :-)

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 12 Oct 2014 22:08

Deborah has today returned to her PREVIOUS thread

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1312936

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 29 Oct 2014 10:40

A Thank You here

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_chat/thread/1346093

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