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My ancestors MARGARET EMBROUGH born 10th September 1842 at Dewley / Newham in Castle Ward Northumberland and died c1890 Winlaton married JOHN GARDNER born c1839 Barlow Letch and died c1899 Winlaton.

Margaret's parents were WILLIAM EMBROUGH born c1804 Selby Yorkshire and died circa 1864 who married MARY AUDUS born 4th February 1798 Selby and died c1873 Tudhoe.

My queries are:
(1) I cannot find William and Mary in the 1841 or 1851 census returns, where were they?
(2) When were William and Mary married and was this their 1st marriage?
(3) Did they have any other children?
(4) Who were William's parents and grandparents?
(5) Who were Mary's parents and grandparents?

It is possible that the surname EMBROUGH might be a variant of EMBURY or HEMBROUGH but not certain of this.

Can anybody help me please
JIG

Which online records have you looked at?

How do you know Mary's exact DOB without knowing at least who her father was?

First name(s) MARY
Last name EMBROUGH
Birth year 1797
Death year 1873
Age 76
Burial year 1873
Burial day 13
Burial month Dec
Parish TUDHOE/HOLY INNOCENTS
County Durham
Country England
Residence Tudhoe Grange


freebmd version

Deaths Dec 1873 (>99%)
EMBROUTH Mary 76 Durham 10a 252

Not many women ADD years to their age

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
2nd Street East of Durham Road, Tudhoe, Durham, England

Print transcription View image Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Gardner Head - Male 32 1839 - Durham, England Transcription
Margaret Gardner Wife - Female 30 1841 - Durham, England Transcription
William Gardner Son - Male 11 1860 - Durham, England Transcription
Catherine Gardner Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Durham, England Transcription
Mary Gardner Daughter - Female 6 1865 - Durham, England Transcription
John Gardner Son - Male 4 1867 - Durham, England Transcription
Cuthbert Gardner Son - Male 2 1869 - Durham, England Transcription
Sarah Gardner Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Durham, England Transcription
Mary Embrough Mother-In-Law - Female 75 1796 - Yorkshire, England Transcription
Harry Dason Boarder - Male 20 1851 - Nottinghamshire, England

If this is what you found............

Name: Mary Audus
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 04 Feb 1798
Christening Place: SELBY,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name: William Audus
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C10900-3 ,

..........Mary had a number of siblings

The date is that of her BAPTISM...not her birth

Have you tried to find out who her father married?

Added

I guess not...........see below posted at 17:38

Well, I agree with you on one point..........there's no sign of them in 1841 and 1851.

I've tried everything I can think of...........

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Village of Barlow, Winlaton, Gateshead, Durham, England

Print transcription View image Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Gardner Head Married Male 22 1839 Stone Mason Winlaton, Durham, England Transcription
Margaret Gardner Wife Married Female 20 1841 - Newburn, Northumberland, England Transcription
William Gardner Son - Male 1 1860 - Winlaton, Durham, England

Name: William Audus
Birth Date: 1771
Age: 26
Spouse's Name: Mary Chapel
Spouse's Birth Date: 1772
Spouse's Age: 25
Event Date: 27 Feb 1797
Event Place: Selby, York, England

I have checked LSD and Ancestry and contact several people but I have come to a dead end on all lines of enquiry. I think I need some spark of inspiration.

note that this record from ancestry gives the name of Mary Audus' mother



England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Mary Audus

Name: Mary Audus
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 1 Feb 1798
Birth Place: Selby, York, England
Father: William Audus
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number: 1068398
Reference ID: item 2 p 132



I assume that it is the same Mary Audus as in the record posted by Jacqueline, and in this record, which is also from ancestry ...........



England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Mary Audus

Name: Mary Audus
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 4 Feb 1798
Baptism Place: Selby,York,England
Father: William Audus
FHL Film Number: 991089




These records have all been accessed from the familysearch site ................ the site run by the Mormons, aka LDS.

It is a free site, and you should see what you can find on the RECORDS section of that site ............... these are records taken from the Parish Registers.


www.familysearch.org/search

this is Margaret's birth registration, from ancestry



England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Margaret Embrough

Name: Margaret Embrough
Registration Year: 1842
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Castle Ward
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 25
Page: 243

The LDS site is the source of the baptism I posted.

I wonder why didn't you notice her father's name?

And some indication that you've seen the info posted would be good

I apologise for not including all details but the accuracy I am not 100% certain.

I have no details of the parents of WILLIAM (H)EMBROUGH born c1804 Selby Yorkshire.
And as for MARY AUDUS I think her parents were William Audus christened 3rd October 1769 Howden Yorkshire who married Mary Chapel born c1771 Cowick Yorkshire. They had 5 children - Mary - Thomas - William - John - Elizabeth which can be located on LSD.

POSSIBLY Wiliiam Audus's parents were THOMAS AUDUS christened 7th November 1732 in Drax Yorkshire who on 7th July 1761 in Howden Yorkshire married ANN KIRTISON born unknown. This is only an assumption at this point in time as I cannot validate the details.

Hello Joseph- just for a reference for William's birth, do you have the details of William and Mary on the 1861 census?

Oh, OK- I think this is the 1861 census where you have William's info from:

William Emburey Head Married Male 57 1804 Clog Dealer York Selby
Mary Emburey Wife Married Female 65 1796 York, Selby
John Wilson Patterson Servant Unmarried Male 21 1840 Carter Morpeth, Northumberland,
Street Village Of Barlow
Parish Winlaton
County Durham
Ecclesiastical district St Pauls
Registration district Gateshead
Enumeration district 4
Piece number 3808
Folio number 80
Page number 3

Occupation could also be Clay dealer- not clear on original

Thanks for the info much appreciated.