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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 5 Dec 2014 21:08

Ancestry shows

England Select Marriages 1538-1973
Index-only record
Name: Charles Mayfield
Gender: Male
Age: 30
Birth Date: 1897
Marriage Date: 24 Dec 1927
Marriage Place: Caythorpe, Lincoln, England
Father:
Spouse: Martha Gerrard

FHL Film Number: 1542302
Reference ID: 237

The only Mayfield/Garrard marriage that seems to be around is

Marriages Dec 1927 (>99%)
Gerrard Martha Mayfield Newark 7b 1153
Mayfield Charles Gerrard Newark 7b 1153

Any suggestions about what is going on please?

Andysmum

Andysmum Report 5 Dec 2014 21:44

If you are referring to the fact that Caythorpe is in Lincolnshire and Newark is in Nottinghamshire, that is OK as the parish of Caythorpe is in Newark registration district.

If you mean something else, what is the problem please?

greyghost

greyghost Report 5 Dec 2014 21:48

The Newark RD covers Caythorpe even though Newark is in Notts

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 5 Dec 2014 22:27

It was the Nottinghamshire v Lincolnshire aspect that was the problem.

Thank you for setting me straight :-)

Kense

Kense Report 6 Dec 2014 11:49

If you click on the place name in your freebmd search results, it will give you information about that district and subdistricts and component parishes.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 6 Dec 2014 14:23

I was focussed on the difference in Counties, and didn't think of doing that ;-)

Kay????

Kay???? Report 6 Dec 2014 18:36


There are two Caythorpes,

One in Lincolnshire,

One in Nottinghamshire,

Caythorpe Lincolnshire is in the reg district of 7a.Caythorpe marriages/births/deaths come under Grantham.7a.

Caythorpe Nottinghamshire is reg district of 7b which includes Newark.this one lies just outside East Bridgeford, or google ""Gunthorpe"" Caythorpe is about 5/6 miles east.but is just outside the district to be Nottingham and nearest reg place is Newark,,,,

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 6 Dec 2014 20:56

:-S

So did who ever made the PR transcription assume it was the one in Lincs when it was acutally the one in Notts?

Kay????

Kay???? Report 6 Dec 2014 21:17


I would assume so......the GRO will be right as it has the correct registration district,,,,it was just assumed it was Lincs,,,,they may have transcribed others which took place in Caythorpe Lincs and went from that.

Kense

Kense Report 6 Dec 2014 22:34

According to the GENUKI list, Caythorpe, Lincs was in the Newark district until 1934.
Caythorpe, Notts became part of Newark in 1974.

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/newark.html

Kay????

Kay???? Report 7 Dec 2014 22:55


From 1852 to 1946,

Registration District,

7 a--- Rutland ,Lincolnshire,parts. of Leicestershire....

7b ----Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire,

the GRO index is 7b,,,,,,,,,for the 1927 marriage,

Newark has always been part of the County of Nottinghamshire and Sherwood, Shire district is Nottinghamshire,

Kense

Kense Report 8 Dec 2014 09:30

Whoever did the PR transcription of the marriage would have got the county from the parish register, they wouldn't have had to assume a county.

The county is mentioned in the top line of each entry viz
19.. Marriage solemnized at ... in the ... of ... in the County of ...

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 8 Dec 2014 10:08

It's a pity that Notts archive is closed. Wendy might have been willing to check the registers on her next visit ;-)

Kay????

Kay???? Report 8 Dec 2014 11:04

Its a mystery Dec.

Just checked a 1926 Kellys,,,,,,St Vincents Church Caythorpe in the County of Lincolnshire,,,!

Claypole a nearby village could just come under the Newark boundry as does Stubton..

Maybe not so of a mystery after all..

West Caythorpe came under the UD of Newark.!

:-D :-D :-D.

Kense

Kense Report 8 Dec 2014 15:40

Perhaps this will help:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/Caythorpe/#top

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 9 Dec 2014 18:14

Until proved otherwise, I'm going to assume it was the Lincolnshire one.
When I have a bit more time, I might email Notts and/or Lincs archives and see what their take on it is. If I'm lucky, it might pique their curiosity to the extent that they'll have a look at the PR ;-)

Thank you for your assistance. :-D

Kay????

Kay???? Report 12 Dec 2014 17:32

FMP,
Has place of residence for both groom and bride ---Carlton Scroop.a couple of miles from Caythorpe.

Brides father as Thomas.
does this match your findings?

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 12 Dec 2014 17:48

Thank you for the additional information - Charles Mayfield is the 'marry-in'.

The 1911 census shows the Gerrards to be living in Lincoln, and yes Martha's father was called Thomas. :-)

Kay????

Kay???? Report 12 Dec 2014 18:08

No daddy for Charles though,,,,,,,, :-(

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 12 Dec 2014 20:03

Not to worry - Martha is a rather distant relative. Thank you for looking anyway :-)