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I am looking for Annie Cook b. 1879 and Alice Cook b1881.
They were on board the Riverina that left London for Melbourne via Adelaide. Arriving Melbourne 01/10/1888.
I have been unable to find the passenger list for the Riverina.
I am hoping that they are the children of Arthur Cook. I only have family stories to go by. :-)

do you know where they were born and the mother's name?

you wont find the passenger list as online sailing records dont start till 1890

Do you know when and where Arthur Cook was born - which might help to find Annie in the 1881 census?

Kath. x

some details of Arthur Cook would help as the names are unique i,m afraid

travelling with w cook aged 39, jane 34,and 5 children
alice, george, martha, louisa and annie aged 9 months

Alice Cook

in the Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839-1923
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Name: Alice Cook
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Age: 7
Arrival Date: 1 Oct 1888
Arrival Port: Melbourne, Australia
Departure Port: London Via Adelaide
Ship: Riverina

from ancestry

looking at the passenger list they are travelling with their parents
W Cook aged 39 and Jane Cook aged 34

they have others siblings with them George Cook aged 6, Martha Cook aged 10 and Louisa Cook aged 3

so not the ones you are hoping for i think

I would say you are right Shirley not the right family. " THANKS " everyone for you quick response. I know nothing about Arthur Cook except on his family in Tasmania. When or where he came from I have no idea. Family stories has he was suppose to be a ships Captain. Here in Tassie he was a hawker when his first son was born with Sarah Hull. The other three boys he was a fishmonger. He was supposed to have gone back home to England and found his wife in bed with his brother - gathered the two girls up and came back to Australia leaving them in Melbourne with rellies. That's all I know
:-S

Have you found his death for his actual birthdate

Did he marry Sarah ?

Any connection?

Sarah Hull
in the Tasmania, Australia, Police Gazettes, 1884-1933

Sarah Hull
Year: 1889
Place: Australia, Tasmania
Reference Description: AU6103-1889 Tasmania Police Gazette 1889

Name: Sarah Hull age 31

Supreme Court Hobatt 13th July 1889 offence. Neglecting her child

There are police reports about various Arthur Cooks - but not knowing when he was born or died it's impossible to know if any of them could be him.

For example:

An inquest was held at the General Hospital, Hobart, on 18th inst. [ January 1889], before F W Mitchell, Esquire, Coroner, on the body of Arthur Cook, aged 52 years.
Verdict: died from collapse, consequent on purging and vomiting of a choleric nature, on 17th instant.

Arthur Cook
in the Tasmania, Australia, Police Gazettes, 1884-1933
Name: Arthur Cook
Birth Year: abt 1837
Year: 1889
Place: Australia, Tasmania
Age: 52
Reference Description: AU6103-1889 Tasmania Police Gazette 1889

A son of Arthur and Sarah ?? He was born the same day the Arthur above died - but probably not connected.
Perhaps he's the child who was neglected??

Arthur Cook
in the Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Arthur Cook
Birth Date: 18 Jan 1889
Birth Place: Tasmania
Registration Year: 1889
Registration Place: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
Father: Arthur Cook
Mother: Sarah Hllll
Registration Number: 650

Ancestry suggests this is the same child in 1911 (not grown up) - but I have no idea if it is the same Arthur or not - no middle name on birth record:

Arthur E Cook
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Arthur E Cook
Age in 1911: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Birth Place: Hobart, Tasmania
Civil Parish: China and East Indies
County/Island: Royal Navy
Country: England
Marital Status: Single
Registration District Number: 640
ED, institution, or vessel: Vessels
Piece: 34972

" THANK YOU ALL " :-) for your replies. Have never been able to find a marriage for Sarah and Arthur and I have assumed that is because he was married in England ( family story ) YES that is Arthur that died in 1899 and Yes that is the youngest child ( Arthur ) that was born the day after he died. Arthur Edward ( youngest child ) is the one that was in the English census. He put on his enlistment papers he was an orphan. Sarah herself was an alcoholic so had various police reports on her behaviour including neglect of the children and a fire. The Arthur born in Tasmania does interest me thou as family has said he was born in England. Maybe not worth looking at.

Just a thought

The girls were supposed to have been brought up by relations in Melbourne ,have you found a family connection for that info :-)

No have not found anything at all. But what I did find out yesterday. Sarah DID marry twice after Arthur ( 1 ) William Davey ( 2 ) John Dillworth
On her marriage certificate to Davey she said she had three children - two living one deceased.
The interesting thing that I never knew before I saw the paperwork was that she married Davey in 1887 her youngest was born 1889 the day after Arthur had died. To make it more confusing Davey died from a tragic accident 17 /07/1889 before the child was born. So from that I have assumed that the last born was a Davey not a Cook. I am not sure if Tasmania has census or assessment rolls back in those times. Will need to go see if I can find where she was living at the time of Arthurs death 20/01/1889 and the baby being born 21/01/1899 Sarah would have been about 3 months along when Davey died and she was with him when the accident occurred. On his enlistment papers he put down he was an orphan. I know Sarah put all 5 into the Queens Orphanage - makes me wonder know if she took the youngest back. Did say on the orphanage's paperwork that she did but did she keep him.

Examiner (Launceston, Tas. : 1900 - 1954) Tuesday 28 January 1902 p 4

CURRENT TOPICS.
John Dillworth (38) and Sarah Dillworth or Cook (39) on a charge of having disturbed the peace at the Sandhill by fighting. They will be brought up at the Police Court this morning.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/search?adv=y

(other results sarah dillworth also, if relating)

Chris :)


The Sandy Bay Case. HOBART, JULY 26. The Colonist (Launceston, Tas. : 1888 - 1891) Saturday 3 August 1889 p 22 Article...

Sarah Hull neglected her infant child, Arthur Cook, 25 weeks old. This is the disreputable case referred to in the late fire at Sandy Bay.

(alos other results, sarah hull)

Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922 (Ancestry)

Name: Arthur Cook
Birth Date: 18 Jan 1889
Birth Place: Tasmania
Registration Year: 1889
Registration Place: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
Father: Arthur Cook
Mother: Sarah Hllll

(image available Find My Past. Princes Street, Sandy Bay, Sarah Cook, formerly Hull. occupation of Father, Fish Agent. Date Registered, 20th February)


LOCAL AND GENERAL Tasmanian News (Hobart, Tas. : 1883 - 1911) Monday 21 January 1889 p 2

Intestacy.
In Chambers today, the Chief Justice made an order directing the Curator to administer the personal estate of Arthur Cook, fish agent, who died intestate.

(Find My Past also have Death, Arthur 1889, 17th. January. (7, Argyle Street, Hobart. Born England)

http://www.linc.tas.gov.au/family-history/Pages/Birth-Death-Marriage.aspx

http://www.linc.tas.gov.au/family-history

That's my Arthur in Argyle Street 1889 and the birth of the child named Arthur. Have been unable to find
LOCAL AND GENERAL Tasmanian News (Hobart, Tas. : 1883 - 1911) Monday 21 January 1889 p 2
Could you please " HELP " - went thru Trove - is thru where you found Chris

Trove has the Newspaper articles.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/search?adv=y

(using fish agent (The phrase) cook (All of these words) then filter down side where it says Decade to 1889)

Chris :)

(below from google search, advice Wils/Probate)

http://www.linc.tas.gov.au/archive-heritage/guides-records/Pages/wills.aspx


edits (if Trove link above timed out, then just google trove advanced)

Tasmanian LINC index has the children of Arthur COOK and Sarah HULL (not HILL) as:

68098 COOK EDWARD ARTHUR 1883
68100 CROOK ARTHUR 1885
68097 COOK HECTOR WILLIAM 1887
68099 COOK ARTHUR 1889

There are birth certificates for all the children at LINC.

Edward Arthur COOK b. 25 Sept 1883 to Arthur COOK, hawker, and Sarah COOK formerly HULL, of Kemp St, Hobart, registered 7 Nov 1883.

Arthur COOK b. 20 Dec 1885 to Arthur COOK, commission agent, and Sarah COOK, formerly HULL, of Lower Argyle St, Hobart, registered 29 Jan 1886.

Hector William COOK b. 23 Oct 1887 to Arthur COOK, fish agent, and Sarah COOK, formerly HULL, of Argyle St, Hobart, registered 23 Nov 1887.

Arthur COOK b. 18 Jan 1889 to Arthur COOK, fish agent, and Sarah COOK, formerly HULL, of No. 97 Argyle St, Hobart, registered 20 Feb 1889.

Sarah remarried 24 Nov 1897 to Wm DAVEY, she was 36 and he was 34, of Glen Fern, housekeeper and widow, daughter of Edward HULL, baker, and Ellen HULL nee ALLEN.

Sarah's parents Edward HULL and Ellen ALLEN married in Tasmania in 1854 :
https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/all/search/detailnonmodal/ent:$002f$002fNAME_INDEXES$002f0$002fNAME_INDEXES:1242026/one

Edward was a convict who arrived aboard Rodney (1) in 1850 from Portland, transported for burglary.

It seems odd that Arthur & Sarah would have married and had their eldest 2 daughters in England when Sarah was from Tasmania?