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Maureen

Maureen Report 13 Aug 2016 20:46

Can anyone with Ancestry sub check out a record I have found.

Liverpool,England,Cathoilic Baptisms 1802-1906

Maria Anna Carney born 11 March 1896 Baptised 15 March 1896
St Vincent De Paul Lancashire

On the record is a note dated 25-4-1929 I cant make out the full transcription, think it could be marriage details, I can see St Malachys Church and the address 7 Chester Place.
There is a Chester Street in same area as church but no Chester Place.

I would like to find her marriage and any children.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 13 Aug 2016 21:12

Transcript as per Ancestry

: Maria Anna Carney
Birth Date: 11 Mar 1896
Baptism Date: 15 Mar 1896
Parish: St Vincent de Paul, Lancashire, England
Father's name: Joannia Carney
Mother's name: Catherina Carney

Think it says she married Edwardo Fras something, with dispensation.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 13 Aug 2016 21:16

This is likely

Marriages Mar 1929 (>99%)
Carney Mary A Funcks Liverpool 8b 92
Funcks Edward Carney Liverpool 8b 92

They probably had a civil wedding before the religious one.

Looking again at the image, Fras does look like Funcks

Freebmd shows one Funcks/Carney child born in 1930

Maureen

Maureen Report 13 Aug 2016 21:27

Thanks for your reply Detective

I will look at the record for marriage and child.

I thought it was a Francis Edwards? or similar.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 13 Aug 2016 21:34

Definately Edwardo. (Edward)

This is Joseph on the 1939 Register - as his name is visible, he is presumed to have died.

Funcks Household (2 People) 54 Tennyson Street , Liverpool C.B., Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Ellen Funcks 26 Sep 1904 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 255 1
Joseph Funcks 12 Apr 1930 Male At School Single 255 2


+ 4 closed records listed after Joseph who were either born after 1915 or died after 1991.

There is no other Joseph Funcks born in 1930 regardless of mmn. However, who the heck is Ellen?

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 13 Aug 2016 21:44

Mary Ann Funcks died in 1931

MARY A
Last name FUNCKS
Gender Female
Birth year 1897
Age 34
Death quarter 1
Death year 1931
District LIVERPOOL
County Lancashire
Volume 8B
Page 240

then Edward remarried in 1932
EDWARD
Last name FUNCKS
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1932
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ EDWARD FUNCKS married
HELEN DEVERS
Spouse's last name DEVERS
District LIVERPOOL
District number -
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8B
Page 348

Ellen is probably Helen & the other closed records her children (3 shown on Freebmd)

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 13 Aug 2016 21:48

Liverpool, England, Catholic Burials, 1813-1988

Mary Ann Funcks
Birth Year: abt 1897
Age: 34
Death Year: abt 1931
Burial Date: 19 Feb 1931
Parish: Ford Cemetery, Lancashire, England
(of 126 Smithdown Road)

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 13 Aug 2016 21:52

The only Edward Funcks shown on FMP is

EDWARD
Last name FUNCKS
Birth year 1907
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District TOXTETH PARK
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 8B
Page 137

His death
EDWARD
Last name FUNCKS
Gender Male
Birth day 12
Birth month 8
Birth year 1907
Death quarter 4
Death year 1979
District LIVERPOOL
County Lancashire
Volume 36
Page 0885

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 13 Aug 2016 22:02

Joseph's death - FMP are updating the Register when they can find a matching death

JOSEPH
Last name FUNCKS
Gender Male
Birth day 12
Birth month 4
Birth year 1930
Death quarter 4
Death year 2001
District LIVERPOOL
District number 0251A
Register number A27D
Entry number 169
Date of registration mm/yy 1101

Joseph married in 1952.
One child showing on Freebmd

Possibly his wife's death
KATHLEEN
Last name FUNCKS
Gender Female
Birth day 22
Birth month 6
Birth year 1931
Death quarter 4
Death year 1982
District LIVERPOOL
County Lancashire
Volume 36
Page 1240

Maureen

Maureen Report 13 Aug 2016 22:05

Thanks for all the help Detective

I have been looking at the records you mentioned and will follow up on the above. I see Mary Ann died young as did her parents.


Thanks again
Maureen

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 14 Aug 2016 07:31

1896-902 ST VINCENT DE PAUL 282-SVP-1-4 (298) 1896 1896 MARY ANN CARNEY JOHN CATHERINE CARNEY

http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co.uk/

(if anything else on above)

Chris :)


Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1929

CARNEY Mary A FUNCKS Edward Toxteth Park, Holy Trinity Liverpool 2104TP/3/427


http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php