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Certainty/guesswork links Edith Roberts b1907

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Alisoun

Alisoun Report 29 Oct 2016 06:20


Apparently there is a newspaper article about a 10 year old Edith Roberts
Born 1907
She was in a case of abuse and neglect by step mother 1917


If this was in Liverpool or her birth is recorded as in the region

I feel she could be the same child who was handed over in the same scandal case in 1907 ....Australian paper reported mother in tears in court and
At time landlady observed genuine sadness grief at giving up baby

The years don't tally for age of mother lottie but stories are so similar

And there is a lottie actress who could fill intervening years ....down as Pearcy on 190@ census


Well found genes geniuses .......

Would very much like to find proof that 20 year old Charlotte roberts had lied about her age to impress younger lover

Would have thought if leo could take on a pregnant gf not his babe .
Plead for leniency for her in court and ask for all blame he.d have accepted 7 year age gap


Also if trial inliverpool it was near enough to Birkenhead our Charlotte.s birthpace for her to be identified

Court transcript from Brisbane news of day manage to give her true nana not her Ali's

What was her stage name in So. 1907

Does this tally with any o aliases firf Lottie and ..Henry the actors early 1900',


These details from news which are facts which embellished for news


If it is same lady and this was edited fate what happens to the other babies


Orig post re ggmother 1881

On ancestry board ...sorry can't cut and paste

We have orig cert for Charlotte now so hope 1939 will tie it all up

Ps the fact that John.Roverts c.s father did not disinherit her may indicate that he was not angry with her or assumed of having felon as prisoner


Sorry for typing


The drama continue

There are also kinks to Brigid's rootschat post ccsllid. Disappearing nana with links to some of these news clippings including Welsh one with mug shits oypf Leo and Charlotte hope they got back together after prison it's a love story .B

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 Oct 2016 07:37

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1300276?d=desc

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=702286.81

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=758108.0


(I am adding links for above work done on this, not sure if more)

Chris :)


(there are lots of articles in Newspapers relating, using various names!, you can use below)

http://newspapers.library.wales/

(above free to use)


http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/

(above, also Find My Past and Genes, subscription needed)


https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/search?adv=y

(Australian, free to use)


http://tinyurl.com/zucvxvy

(also above about it from google search)


(and don't know if below is the newspaper reference for the Edith Roberts 10 years old, mentioned in article)


13 November 1916 - Sheffield Evening Telegraph - Sheffield, South

SOLDIER S CHILD. Stepmother’s Cruelty to a Little Girl. Tlie wife of a soldier. Charlotte Roberts (20). York Street, West Melton, was to-day the Rotherham West Riding Court summoned for cruelty a child of which she is the step-mother. Mr. llradford prosecuted ...”


(above relates to Edith Kathleen Roberts 1906 Rotherham. Parents Edwin, Elizabeth Ann)


Edits (did you ever send for 1881 Birth Cert.?)


http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/

(above was posted for it, to match one on below)

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl


(if anyone else wants to 'step in', got confusing trying to keep up with latest postings, on links, but hope yourself and Brigid get your Charlotte sorted!)