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I am searching for anything relating to my Great Great Grandmother, Jane Murdock born on 30/05/1830 SLEAFORD Lincolnshire England. Her parents were David Murdock and Elizabeth Thompson. She married my Great Great Grandfather James Smith. He was born in Sheffield in 1809 and was a File Cutter. They subsequently had 11 or so children, my Great Grandmother being the last, Emily Smith born Sheffield 1854.

The family legend has it that Jane Murdock was descended from the Royal Stewarts. The Gardener was supposed to have run off with the daughter of the house and eloped. It was a true enough story that someone came from England in 1915 to visit my Great Grandmother in New Zealand to apply for funds held in chancery from this family who were descended from the Royal Stewarts. My Great Grandmother claimed that she could recite her family back to the Royal Stewarts. If it was ever written down, we never found it. This family is also connected with Bookers and Waltons if any of those names help too.

I have never been able to find a correct DOB or DOD for James Smith. If anybody out there could help me it would be very much appreciated.

Thanks for any help that you may be able to give me.

Kind regards
Wendy Beck
Christchurch New Zealand

There seems to be a big age difference between jane and John smilth

Would she have been born 1830 and had 11 children by 1854

When did she marry John Smith please

SMITH, EMILY MURDOCK Order
GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 273

SMITH, WILLIAM MURDOCK Order
GRO Reference: 1846 J Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 22 Page 673

SMITH, BENJAMIN MURDOCK Order
GRO Reference: 1844 M Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 22 Page 608

SMITH, DAVID MURDOCK Order
GRO Reference: 1839 S Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 22 Page 564

SMITH, ROBERT MURDOCK Order
GRO Reference: 1842 S Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 20 Page 325

So one child born 1839 at least so jane couldn't have been born in 1830

Have you transposed her birth and it should be 1803 ?

Edit 1851, census says born c1813

Took a lot of searching but found em !

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Haywoods Yard, Scotland Street, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

James Smith Head Married Male 42 1809 File Cutter Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Jane Smith Wife Married Female 38 1813 - Sleaford, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Elizh Smith Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1831 House Servant Sleaford, Lincolnshire, England Transcription
Charles Smith Son Unmarried Male 18 1833 File Cutter Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Ellen Smith Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1835 House Sert Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Jno Smith Son Unmarried Male 13 1838 File Cutter Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription
David Smith Son Unmarried Male 11 1840 File Cutter Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Ann Smith Daughter - Female 8 1843 Scholar Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Benm Smith Son - Male 7 1844 Scholar Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription
William Smith Son - Male 4 1847 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Henrette Smith Daughter - Female 2 1849. - Sheffield. Yorkshire

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(is that James on above?)

Chris :)

County Lincolnshire
Place Sleaford
Church name St Denys
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 258
Marriage date 06 Aug 1811
Groom forename David
Groom surname MURDOCH
Bride forename Elizabeth
Bride surname THOMPSON
Witness Jno ROBINSON
Witness Wm PAYNE
Register note Bride signed X.


Baptism
County Lincolnshire
Place Sleaford
Church name St Denys
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 134
Baptism date 08 May 1815
Person forename James
Person sex M
Person abode Sleaford
Father forename David
Father surname MURDOCH
Father occupation Private 30 Regiment Foot
Mother forename Elizabeth


Baptism
County Lincolnshire
Place Sleaford
Church name St Denys
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 619
Baptism date 16 Dec 1822
Person forename Ann
Person sex F
Person abode Sleaford
Father forename David
Father surname MURDOCK
Father occupation Gardener
Mother forename Elizabeth

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

(from above link)


1540-1837 England, Phillimore Marriage Registers, 1531-1913 (Find My Past)

England, Boyd's Marriage Indexes, 1538-1850 Yorkshire, England (Find My Past)

(as Jane Murdoch on above 1830 Marriage. Rotherham)


http://www.sheffieldindexers.com/

(in case anything Burials, on above, might be a trawl!)

She is a widow by 1871

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
George Lane, Hallam, Nether, Ecclesall Bierlow, Yorkshire, England

Jane Smith Head - Female 58 1813 - Lincolnshire, England Census has birth as Sleaford occ white metal part caster
Mary J Smith Daughter - Female 19 1852 - Yorkshire, England Born Sheffield occ dress maker
Emily Smith Daughter - Female 17 1854. -Yorkshire
Occ warehouse girl

So this has all been though before :-(

Jane Murdock
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:
27 January 1813
NEW SLEAFORD, LINCOLN, ENGLAND
father:
David Murdock
mother:
Elizabeth

Malyon

This has already been gone through

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