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Harold Grant Morgan South African link

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Sarah Anne

Sarah Anne Report 17 Oct 2014 23:23

I am looking for the children of Harold Grant Morgan who was the son of Leopold Reynolds Morgan who went to SA in the early 20th century.
The children would have been born in SA but Harold and Leopold were born in England.

patchem

patchem Report 17 Oct 2014 23:36

Is this Leopold, and have you looked to see if he is in anyone's tree on here, and made contact with them for further information?

Births Dec 1875
MORGAN Leopold Reynolds W. Ham 4a 111

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 17 Oct 2014 23:36

Hi Sarah. Have you checked to see if anyone else has these people in their tree? Use search box above.

An Ancestry tree has wife Doreen Enid Parkes, and one child, still living.
Might be worth contacting them - you can take out a free 2-week membership.
Jan

patchem

patchem Report 17 Oct 2014 23:43

Are you sure about South Africa - have been living in USA and going to Purley?

UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Leopold R Morgan
Birth Date: abt 1876 Age: 49
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 13 Sep 1925
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England Ship Name: Carinthia
Shipping line: Cunard Steamship Company Ltd Official Number: 147318

Travelling with Harold G, (14 years) and Beatrice (56)

?
Births Sep 1910
MORGAN Harold G W. Ham 4a 299

(Births Dec 1910
MORGAN Harold G Croydon 2a 237)

patchem

patchem Report 17 Oct 2014 23:52

Leopold Morgan's wife died in Cape Town:

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Beatrice Maud Morgan
Probate Date: 1 Jan 1943 Death Date: 7 Jun 1942 Death Place: South Africa
Registry: Llandudno

Added:
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar
Leopold Reynolds Morgan Probate Date: 8 Nov 1945 Death Date: 14 Dec 1944 Death Place: Cape
Registry: Llandudno

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 18 Oct 2014 20:56

Name: Leopold R Morgan
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1891
Gender: Male
Age: 15
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birthplace: Leytonstone, Essex
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Croydon
Sub-District: Croydon
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Mary Magdalene
Parish: Croydon
County: Surrey

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 18 Oct 2014 21:01

Name: Leopold Reynolds Morgan
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1875
Registration District: West Ham
County: Essex
Event Place: West Ham, Essex, England
Volume: 4A
Page: 111
Line Number: 100

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 18 Oct 2014 21:02

Given Name: Leopold Reynolds
Surname: Morgan
Last Place of Residence: Port Elisabeth, S. Africa
Event Date: 19 Apr 1922
Age: 46y
Nationality: Great Britain, English
Departure Port: Southampton
Arrival Port: New York
Gender: Male
Marital Status: M
Ship Name: Olympic

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 18 Oct 2014 21:03

Given Name: Harold Grant
Surname: Morgan
Last Place of Residence: Port Elisabeth, S. Africa
Event Date: 19 Apr 1922
Age: 11y
Nationality: Great Britain, English
Departure Port: Southampton
Arrival Port: New York
Gender: Male
Marital Status: S
Ship Name: Olympic

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 18 Oct 2014 21:49

Given Name: Leopold R.
Surname: Morgan
Last Place of Residence: New York, U. S. A.
Event Date: 03 Oct 1924
Age: 48y 9m
Nationality: Britain, English
Departure Port: Southampton
Arrival Port: New York
Gender: Male
Marital Status: M
Ship Name: Aquitania

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 18 Oct 2014 21:56

Given Name: Harold Grant
Surname: Morgan
Last Place of Residence: Port Elisabeth, S. Africa
Event Date: 19 Apr 1922
Age: 11y
Nationality: Great Britain, English
Departure Port: Southampton
Arrival Port: New York
Gender: Male
Marital Status: S
Ship Name: Olympic

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 18 Oct 2014 22:10

Name: Leopold Reynolds Morgan
Age (Original): 5
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1876
Birthplace: Leytonstone, Essex, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Scholar
Address: 10 Landsdown Rd
Event Place: Tottenham, Middlesex, England
Record Type: Household
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 1382 / 35
Page Number: 63
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
James Henry Morgan Head M 44 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Emma Elizabeth Morgan Wife F 42 Hailsham, Sussex, England
Maud Mary Morgan Daughter F 13 Limehouse, Middlesex, England
Harold Edward Morgan Son M 8 Limehouse, Middlesex, England
Leopold Reynolds Morgan Son M 5 Leytonstone, Essex, England
Elvira Adams Servant F 20 Stanbourne, Essex, England

Sarah Anne

Sarah Anne Report 19 Oct 2014 08:07

I have info on the deaths of Leopold Reynolds Morgan and his wife Beatrice Grant as well as the deaths of Harold Grant and his wife, all in South Africa. However it is believed that Harold and his wife Enid had a child (son) and this is where I am stuck. I have Harold's war record but no nothing more about his family.
I have gone onto Ancestry and looked and I did put in a son who might be still alive. I believe the mother Enid is dead.
Of course the son could have returned to the UK or gone elsewhere but I need to know his name and date and place of birth. Trying to find some data in SA I am finding difficult.
Thanks Ann for help.

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 25 Oct 2014 18:33

I had looked in the SA National Archives site to see whether there was any info in 'non-public records'

http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300dl

but came up only with Leopold Reynolds Morgan's and Beatrice Maud Morgan's estate papers


AnnCardiff ... once again you have posted very personal details (exact date of birth, address, telephone number) for someone who is possibly living (would be under 75) and who does not appear to be related to the person in question here anyway (is in the US, and we are now told that the Harold Morgan in question in this thread is deceased in any event)

one wonders whether you would consider deleting that post, or simply repacing the content with the link to the info at familysearch.org as suggested in the past, in case there might be some connection

(edit ... from findagrave it seems he died in 2012, but we didn't know that ...)


for future reference Sarah Ann do note in your opening post what info you already have :-)

edit ... especially when all of the info 'found' here had been found previously in an earlier thread that you didn't mention at all and just let people start all over with the same question and no idea of what you already knew

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/trying_to_find/morgan/thread/1212344