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Medal and silver war badge lookup please

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Dawn

Dawn Report 12 Sep 2014 01:05

Hi, I have checked these on the search on Ancestry and may of found the ones I am looking for, but cannot access them
Charles William Butler army number 10443.
I saw the record on findmypast for the medals but it doesn't show the image or give information about the medals.
I put in this info on the silver war badge but it only showed a name, he was in hospital in 1917 so it may be him
would anyone be able to send me the images?
Many thanks in advance

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 12 Sep 2014 09:48

Could this be the Ancestry result?

UK, Silver War Badge Records, 1914-1920 about Charles William Butler
Name: Charles William Butler
Discharge Unit: Army Service Corps.
Regiment: Army Service Corps
Regimental Number: CMT/582
Rank: Pte.
Badge Number: 126259
Piece: 3211
List Number: RASC 1251-1500
Record Group: WO
Record Class: 329

Enlisted 24/10/12 discharged 23/10/15
Document dated 13 Aug 1917 at Woolwich Dockyard

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 12 Sep 2014 09:53

The closest for the Medal cards is

British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920 about Charles Wm Butler
Name: Charles Wm Butler
Regiment or Corps: Royal Engineers, Hampshire Fort
Regimental Number: 127, 127

It does have a SWB reference 112? The last number is very feint. It could be an 8

The SWB was the only award listed.

Dawn

Dawn Report 12 Sep 2014 11:53

Hi thanks I don't understand as I found it on Findmypast, as Charles William Butler army number 10443
Pte 1st Notts and Derbyshire Regt
Cpl 1st Notts and Derbyshire Regt
for the medal card.
The person who found this on the National archives said it was also on Ancestry.
I don't know if he was awarded a silver war badge, just did see a Charles William Butler and he was in hospital in 1917.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 12 Sep 2014 15:12

Found the entry on the National Archive site, but can't find it on Ancestry!

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D1666598

Reference: WO 372/3/212767
Description:
Medal card of Butler, Charles William
Corps Regiment No Rank
1st Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire Regiment 10443 Private
1st Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire Regiment 10443 Corporal
Date: 1914-1920

Held by: The National Archives, Kew

Lets hope that someone can have more success on Ancestry, or can find the FMP entry

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 12 Sep 2014 17:36

From Ancestry - Medal Card

Name: Chas Wm Butler
Regiment or Corps: 1st Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire Regiment
Regimental Number: 10443


Have sent the image

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 12 Sep 2014 17:53

Well done GB - despite messing around with the name, it didn't come up!

Just noticed - British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920 on Ancestry are FREE at the moment

Dawn

Dawn Report 13 Sep 2014 00:29

Thank you both for your help and yes I did get the image!.......this is about all I can find of him!, even though he joined around 1910/11 and was in India with this regt on the 1911 census. He apparently continued in the Regt after the war and was back in India where at least one of his daughters was born in 1924.
I was hoping to get something at least from before 1914! I guess his WW1 records were one of the burnt ones
Thanks very much once again :-)

mgnv

mgnv Report 18 Sep 2014 11:01

If he was in the army after 1920, his service record is not a public document - he, or his widow, can access it, and I think their kids can if both parents are dead.

I'm sure someone can give you links to more precise access info, if you need it.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 18 Sep 2014 14:02

From the stickied thread at the top of this board

This is the link for obtaining UK service records:
http://www.veterans-uk.info/service_records/service_records.html

(You'll need to click through until you find the correct forms)

Be prepared for a fee of £30 and many months of waiting until the records land on your doormat. It could be that his WW1 service papers are with his main file - that is a suggestion, not definate knowledge!

Dawn

Dawn Report 19 Sep 2014 09:38

Hi thanks for that, I will pass the information to the person concerned :-)