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William Jenner/Semark c1821 more info required

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sharonj1970

sharonj1970 Report 26 Jun 2011 10:38

I am looking for information regarding the father of William Jenner. I know his named was John Jenner his name appears on the Hadlow parish records for Williams marriages. However the only John Jenner I can find was born in Horsemonden. I am struggling to confirm this John is the same family. According to parish records his mothermarried a Seamark

Please help

Sharon

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 26 Jun 2011 11:04

Is this the family............??


1881 England Census
about William Jenner
Name: William Jenner
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Jenner
Gender: Male
Where born: East Peckham, Kent, England

Civil parish: West Peckham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address: Adams Well Cottage
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Ag Labourer

Registration district: Malling
Sub-registration district: East Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 901
Folio: 67
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
William Jenner 59
Eliza Jenner 55
Mary Jenner 25
Charles Jenner 15
John Jenner 13
Albert Jenner 9
Elizabeth Jenner 3

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 26 Jun 2011 11:15

Is this him in 1841??

1841 England Census
about William Jenner Name: William Jenner
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Gender: Male
Where born: Kent, England

Civil parish: Ditton
Hundred: Larkfield
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Malling
Sub-registration district: Aylesford
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 457
Book: 10
Folio: 4
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
William Jenner 48
Mary Jenner 47
William Jenner 23


BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 26 Jun 2011 11:37

Are you sure that William and Eliza actually married, I can't see a marriage registration.

Looking at this;

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Eliza Large Name: Eliza Large
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1901
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Malling
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 447


1841 England Census
about Eliza Large Name: Eliza Large
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Where born: Kent, England

Civil parish: Nettlestead
Hundred: Twyford
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Maidstone
Sub-registration district: Yalding
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 461
Book: 1
Folio: 4
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Large 50
Elizabeth Large 50
William Large 20
Henry Large 15
Charles Large 15
Eliza Large 12


Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Jun 2011 11:43

he is a widower in 1891 if this is him
BRIGDEN, Thomas Head Married M 60 1831 General Labourer
Wrotham
Kent VIEW
BRIGDEN, Eliza Wife Married F 59 1832
West Peckham
Kent VIEW
BRIGDEN, Agnes M Granddaughter Single F 10 1881 Scholar
Aylesford
Kent VIEW
JENNER, William Boarder Widower M 70 1821 Farm Labourer
East Peckham
Kent VIEW
RG number:
RG12 Piece:
668 Folio:
135 Page:
16

Registration District:
Malling Sub District:
Aylesford Enumeration District:
7 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Peters

Civil Parish:
* Municipal Borough:
Address:
7, Jubilee Terrace, *, Ditton County:
Kent

Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Jun 2011 11:49

possible deaths
BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Death
Name: JENNER, William
Registration District: Help Malling
County: Kent
Year of Registration: 1899
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 77
Volume No: 2A
Page No: 479

BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Death
Name: JENNER, William
Registration District: Help Malling
County: Kent
Year of Registration: 1899
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 81
Volume No: 2A
Page No: 438
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BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 26 Jun 2011 11:58

This sems to be the same family from the 1881 census;

1871 England Census
about Eliza Semark Name: Eliza Semark
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Semark
Gender: Female
Where born: Nottlestead, Kent, England
Civil parish: Ditton
Town: Wouldham Rochester
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Malling
Sub-registration district: Aylesford
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 916
Household Members: Name Age
William Semark 50 >> Born East Peckham. Ag Lab
Eliza Semark 45
George Semark 17
Mary Ann Semark 15
James Semark 13
Charles Semark 13 >> 5 on image
John Semark 3


All children born Hadlow.


Potty

Potty Report 26 Jun 2011 12:01

The family Bmd found in 1861?

1861 England Census
about Mary Ann Janner
Name: Mary Ann Janner
[Mary Ann Jenner]
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Will Janner
Mother's name: Mary Ann Janner
Gender: Female
Where born: Hadlow

Civil parish: Hadlow
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Tunbridge
Sub-registration district: Tunbridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 67
Piece: 495
Folio: 51
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
Will Janner 39
Mary Ann Janner 29
Will Janner 9
Geo Janner 7
Mary Ann Janner 5
James Janner 3
Stephen Janner 7
Will Janner 3
John Ellison 10

The ages of the last 3 children are months not years and the last two are "Nurse Child" with no relationship given.

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 26 Jun 2011 12:02

This could be them 10 years prior;

1861 England Census
about James Janner Name: James Janner
[James Jenner]
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Son
Father's name: Will Janner
Mother's name: Mary Ann Janner
Gender: Male
Where born: Hadlow

Civil parish: Hadlow
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Tunbridge
Sub-registration district: Tunbridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 67
Piece: 495
Folio: 51
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
Will Janner 39 >> Ag Lab
Mary Ann Janner 29
Will Janner 9
Geo Janner 7
Mary Ann Janner 5
James Janner 3
Stephen Janner 7 months
Will Janner 3 >> Doesn't look like Jenner, birth area NK, nurse child
John Ellison 10 >. birth area NK, nurse child

All the Jenners born Hadlow


BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 26 Jun 2011 12:03

Snap Potty x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 26 Jun 2011 12:09

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Albert Edward Jenner Name: Albert Edward Jenner >> Grocer
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Spouse Name: Annie Bell
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 24 Dec 1902
Parish: Christ Church, North Brixton
County: Surrey
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: William Jenner >> Labourer
Spouse Father Name: Frederick Bell

Witnesses; George and May Ann Jenner

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 26 Jun 2011 12:11

1881 England Census
about Geo. Semark Name: Geo. Semark
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Hadlow, Kent, England

Civil parish: Offham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address: Church Farm
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Farm Servt (Indoor)

Registration district: Malling
Sub-registration district: Wrotham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 903
Folio: 9
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Barrows 62
Caroline Barrows 60
Ellen Barrows 18
Geo. Semark 25
James Baldock 17


BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 26 Jun 2011 12:14

1891 England Census
about Alfred Jenner Name: Alfred Jenner
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Half Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Ditton, Kent, England

Civil parish: Ryarsh
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Snodland
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Malling
Sub-registration district: Aylesford
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 669
Folio: 74
Page Number: 26
Household Members: Name Age
William Semark 40
Eliza Semark 39
Clara Semark 12
Lily Semark 3
Alfred Jenner 19


BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 26 Jun 2011 12:34

1851 England Census
about William James Name: William James
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann James
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: et Peckham, Kent, England

Civil parish: Hadlow
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Tunbridge
Sub-registration district: Tunbridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 123
Piece: 1615
Folio: 268
Page Number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
William James 28 >> Ag Lab
Mary Ann James 19 >> born Hadlow


Jenner on original imaga

sharonj1970

sharonj1970 Report 8 Jul 2011 08:39

Thanks for all theinformation. Most of it I have managed to find. However I am fairly sure William Jenner is the same person as William Semark but cannot find any details of a name change. Also I still cannot find any marriage records for William and Eliza. Your help is appreciated

TootyFruity

TootyFruity Report 8 Jul 2011 09:52

Possible marriage if William Jenner and William Semark are the same person and married after the 1871 census where they were living as man and wife

Marriages Jun 1874 (>99%)
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Goodhew Eliza Malling 2a 780
Semark William Malling 2a 780

or

Marriages Sep 1877 (>99%)
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Semark William Woolwich 1d 1433