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Hello

Could someone please help me find the birth, brothers and sisters and parents of James Coats born 27-12-1786, in East Kilbride.

on the 1841 James and his wife Janet (nee thomson born 1789c) --married 19 feb 1809 at East Kilbride,-- were living at East End, East Kilbride with all 12 of their children.

I have no idea when he died but i do know that Janet died on 14 March 1850 at East End.

On the Cenuses there is another James Coats living next door in Dykehead with his family.
Both James's are roughly the same age, so could possibly be cousins?

The Coats of Dykehead/East End/Paisley seem to all be related, but i can't seem to see the link.

A fresh pair of eyes would be most welcome.

Thanks
Carol

Anyone got any ideas.. i am still looking.

Thanks as always.

Carol

Amanda

Thanks, but i have spent a fortune on Scotlans People and exhausted all avenues that i can think of.

Any other ideas are much appreciated.

Carol

I had a look at the 1841 census for the two James Coats.

The 'other' James and wife Margaret....and all their children....among whom is a Marion.

Think this may be the parents of this particular James (not yours)

James Coats and Marion Graham
Married: 11 June 1786
East Kilbride

Just out of interest, where did you find the date of birth for your James Coats (27 - 12 - 1786) ?

Think this may be the marriage for:

James Coats and Margaret Wilson
7th July and 10th July 1810
East Kilbride

This is a submitted record from the IGI....so is not to be relied on entirely.

However, it seem odd that there seems to be a definite date......almost as if someone had seen it recorded somewhere.

The children recorded on the 1841 census, definitely belong to a couple called James Coats and Margaret Wilson.

Again, the childrens births are all submitted records....but....they are definite dates of birth.

Where did the submitter get this information ?

Hi

Thanks very much for looking. I have traced the coats side up through my mum, and following birth, marraige and death certs arrived at James Coats marrying Janet Thomson ( i have that cert from Old parish reg on Scotlands people). Incidently Janets father was William Thomson of Carseugh.

As far as i can figure out, the other James married a Margaret Wilson.

The odd thing is the 2 james's kids are all similar names, the farms are next door to each other (if you can call it that!) and even the will they left their wives are very similar.

I got my James Coats date of birth 27-12-1786 and Janet fathers name from Sirntet geneology site.

I can't find the parents for James as old parish reg don't give you enough information.

I still think there is a link somewhere between east end/dykehead/paisley/east kilbride... but just can't see it.

Thanks

Carol

I had a look on Scotlandspeople index and there is note of a birth for:

James Coats
1789
East Kilbride.

There is an outside chance this may be your James.

Not sure if you know about this already.

This is NOT the other James as I checked using his parents names of James Coats and Marion Graham.

Helen

Helen

Thanks very much, i will dig around and see what i can find out about James 1789. Its a bit odd that both familes live next door and the children all have similar names...

carol

Hi all

well i have been digging on this side and stumped.....

anyone got fresh eyes? and a working brain?

Carol

If you can find their deaths, in Scotland, after 1854 you will get their parents' names.

Suzanne

Hello

I found under Wills a testament for James dated 16th January 1861 ... so presume he died before this.

stil can't find a death cert for him, or the other James.. (although confusingly enough this James has also left a Will)

Both James's leave all their bits and bob to their respective wives and surviving children....

but stumped .. still can't find a death cert for either of them..

sigh

Carol

Ah haaa

Just found a member on here with a James Coats 1696, born in Dykehead...

so just contacted her to see if there is a possible link..

I am soooo excited, hope she answers quickly!!

Will keep you all posted..

Carol

update...

the person with Dykehead in their tree doesn't give me much to go on and not sure if there is a link between the 2 farmers.

1841.. CENSUS
On the East End farm, i have found a servant called JANET HOGG aged 20

on the Dykehead farm, there is a servant called WILLIAM HOGG aged 13......


Do you think i am getting any closer to finding a link???

thanks
Carol

nudging so a gene-ius might be able to help :)

Hello everyone..

I am still stumped with this one...

Can anyone with fresh eyes and a clear head help??

Thanks very much

Carol

Name: Jame Coats
Age: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1782
Relationship: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: East Kilbride, Lanark
Parish Number: 643
Civil Parish: East Kilbride
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Eastend
Occupation: Farmer Of 50 Acrs
ED: 3
Page: 2 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 6
Line: 15
Roll: CSSCT1851_152
Household Members: Name Age
Jame Coats 69
William Coats 37
John Coats 26
James Coats 23
Janet Coats 22
Agnes Coats 16
Flora McLeaan 28
Eupheama McDonald 18

I have found a death cert on Scotland'sPeople for James Coats (Widower)
died December 8th 1860 at Eastend, East Kilbride aged 79. Son of William and Margaret...can't make out maiden name. Cert is signed by John Coats (son)

Found this on Family Search ......surname of Margaret on James death cert could well be Thomson

WILLIAM COATS Male
Marriages:
Spouse: MARGARET THOMSON Marriage: 18 JAN 1780 East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland

Could this be your James and a brother William

23/05/1781 COATS JAMES / M East Kilbride /LANARK
02/11/1783 COATS WILLIAM / M East Kilbride /LANARK

Aileen

You are a star.. I am at work at the moment (naughty i know!!).

But will dig around in my paper work when i get home..

This looks very promising. Which Census did you find them on? I think i am going blind!!

My james married Janet Thomson and the 'other' james married Margaret Wilson.

Thanks

Carol

Aileen

Mwahh xx

thank you thank you thank you...

I had never gone into that death cert for jame coats in 1860.. i had seen it but was put off as it had age U on the front bit.... i assumed that was a child's death...

Now.. the task is, is to see if William that married Margaret had a brother, who then had a son and called him james .. and maybe that james could be the james of dykehead.

The fact that they called their first son James could mean that Williams dad is also james...

Fingers, toes and eyes crossed

Carol
xx