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Adeney - two children born in NZ and then can't fi

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Kaye

Kaye Report 9 Apr 2009 02:51

Hello,

Love some help please -

NZ birth 1880 Registration No. 3107
Child - Adeney, Henry Charles
Mother – Perry, Emma Augusta
Father – Adeney, Charles

NZ birth 1878 Registration No.2263
Child – Adeney, George Arthur Walter Halesgrave
Mother – Perry, Emma Augusta
Father – Adeney, Charles


These two boys were born in NZ to parents Charles Adeney and Emma Augusta Perry. I later found Emma to have left Charles and with another man by 1881 when she went onto have a large family. (Emma had 4 husbands in total)

It is unknown what ever happened to these two boys as they never remained with their mother Emma.

Charles, the father was later found to have remarried in 1912 to Elizabeth Thompson in NSW Australia where he died. I was unable to find the two boys in Australia or on FreeBDM UK.

I suppose there is always a possibility that they were adopted out in NZ or were sent back to England to extended family where Emma and Charles emigrated from in 1877 on board Wanganui. Emma remained and died in NZ.

Hope I have given enough information. Grateful if anyone can shed some light on these two boys and what may have happened to them.

Thanks
Regards Kaye

Lewella

Lewella Report 9 Apr 2009 03:01

I wonder if Charles's death certificate might indicate something?

17527/1932
ADENEY CHARLES
Father: CHARLES
Mother: EMMA
District: GRANVILLE

Kaye

Kaye Report 9 Apr 2009 04:08

Hi Lewella,

That certainly is a possibility. I'm hopeful someone might be able to find these two boys, somewhere. Again, its possible if they were adopted out their names would have changed.

Will order dad's death cert if nothing else turns up. I have had a lot of fun researching this family with all its twists and turns.

Regards Kaye

Valerie

Valerie Report 9 Apr 2009 05:59

in case it helps...there's 'Joy Murrin's Transcription Services' -on-line - she will search NSW BMD d cert for abt $15. ... ....... The National Library of NZ (Auckland) has an 'Ask a Librarian' service ..they will check their records inc electoral rolls/ newspaper death notices etc. (NSW State Library and all States offer same service) ....Valerie

Kaye

Kaye Report 9 Apr 2009 07:47

Thanks Valerie, that sounds like a good plan. Thank you.

If any has any other ideas, grateful for any advice.

I will be offline shortly and back online again after the easter break - on Wednesday.

Wish you all a happy and safe easter break.

Regards Kaye

Kim

Kim Report 24 Apr 2009 08:34

Hi Kaye,

do you know the surname of the man that Emma left with? It is very possible they may have changed the boys names particularly if the boys were so young.

Another idea are the other states of Australia as there are a number of Adeney in Victorian Electoral rolls though using the Vic BDM I can't see any connections

Charles' death certificate could also have a witness on it that may provide another clue.

just some thoughts
Kim

Kaye

Kaye Report 2 Jul 2011 22:04

Hello

I have found one of the boy's I have been looking for only due to his stepfather beating him badly causing court action.

George Adeney aged six in 1885 in Otaki, New Zealand.

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=MS18851217.2.14&l=mi&e=-------10--1----0--

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=EP18851217.2.29&cl=CL2.1885.12&srpos=0&e=-------10--1----0--

From the articles it appears the mother changed the boy's surname from Adeney to Perry (her maiden name) to avoid being found out for deserting the boy's father her husband (Charles Adeney).

From the articles this is the first only record I have found of George being alive. After this article date I have lost trace of him. Did Constable Carr who took charge of the boy never return him to the family. Might he have gone to a home for boys if so where can find such information. I have searched all the death/marriage records in NZ Aust and UK. The boy/s did not go with their biological father to Australia.

Hope you can help. Many thanks Kaye

Kaye

Kaye Report 2 Jul 2011 22:42

Thanks Helen, will look into this, just never know. There were alot of Adeney's in NSW and VIC. Hope to find more info in NZ as it appears George (child) had stayed with the mother in NZ. Havent found any other info on the other boy, Charles. Hope someone might have better searching skills than me and might find something, even small.

Many thanks to you.
Kaye

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 3 Jul 2011 07:33

HI Kaye,

I wonder??

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Henry C Adeney Name: Henry C Adeney
Birth Date: abt 1880
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1926
Age at Death: 46
Registration district: Hendon
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 251




England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941
about Henry Charles Adeney Name: Henry Charles Adeney
Probate Date: 16 Aug 1926
Death Date: 31 Jul 1926
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: London

It states;

"Of 27 Summer Road, Harrow on the Hill, Misslesex. Effects to Widow Nelie Burden Adeney £200."


Their marriage;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marriages Sep 1911 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Adeney Henry C Richmond S. 2a 1107
Matthews Nellie B Richmond S. 2a 1107



The 1911 census confirms a birth place of New Zealand..... unfortunately I don't have subs to view the transcript;

HOUSEHOLD ADNEY HENRY CHARLES M 1880 31 Hendon Middlesex


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 3 Jul 2011 07:37

I wonder??

1891 England Census
about Harry Adney Name: Harry Adney
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Pupil
Gender: Male
Where born: Christchurch, New Zealand

Civil parish: Teddington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul
Town: Teddington
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Huntingdon House School

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Hampton
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 618
Folio: 26
Page Number: 3

Too many others to list

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 3 Jul 2011 07:47

From Family Search, their marriage including fathers names;

Groom's Name: Henry Charles Adeney
Groom's Birth Date: 1880
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 31
Bride's Name: Nellie Burden Mattews
Bride's Birth Date: 1881
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 30
Marriage Date: 23 Sep 1911
Marriage Place: Richmond, Surrey, England
Groom's Father's Name: Charles Adeney
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: Edward Hugh Mattews
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03834-4
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 2262066
Reference Number: 159


Looking more like your missing chap now.


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 3 Jul 2011 07:54

1901 England Census
about Henry C Edeney Name: Henry C Edeney
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Christch, New Zealand

Civil parish: Richmond
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary and St Matthias
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Richmond
Sub-registration district: Richmond
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 155
Piece: 674
Folio: 138
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Sherratt 74
Mary Hart 73
>>>???? Emma Edeney 48 Single, born St Johns Wood. Living on own means
Henry C Edeney 21 >> Electrician
Gwendoline Woods 2
Harriett Mason 19
Louisa C Wells 14
George W Beal 52


Is Henry with his mother here???

Dee x

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 3 Jul 2011 08:02

1911 for Henry C

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image
GIBBS, George Williams Head Married M 28 1883 Bill Porter Harrow Middlesex VIEW
GIBBS, Hildda Jessie Frames Wife Married F 29 1882 Harrow Middlesex VIEW
GIBBS, Blanche Sylvia Elsie Daughter F 1 (12 MONTHS) 1910 Wealdstone Middlesex VIEW
ADNEY, Henry Charles Boarder Single M 31 1880 Electrician Christchurch N Z Res VIEW
BENDMAN, William Geporge Boarder M 24 1887 Ticket Collector Edin Bridge Kent VIEW
CLARKE, Agnes Benefade Visitor Married F 24 1887 Dublin Ireland Visitor VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
7073 Reference:
RG14PN7073 RG78PN347 RD130 SD1 ED6 SN65

Registration District:
Hendon Sub District:
Harrow Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Harrow on the Hill

Address:
11 Angel Road Harrow County:
Middlesex

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 3 Jul 2011 08:06

Could the Emma above be Henry's aunt??

1871 England Census
about Emma Adeney Name: Emma Adeney
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Charles Adeney
Mother's name: Emma Adeney
Gender: Female
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Kentish Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 155
Piece: 236
Folio: 87
Page Number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Adeney 44
Emma Adeney 37
>>>>Charles Adeney 19 Occupation; Sea Apprentice
Emma Adeney 18
Augusta Adeney 17
Arthur Adeney 15
Walter Adeney 13


BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 3 Jul 2011 08:14

Thanks for the 1911 Joy.

Dee xx

Kaye

Kaye Report 7 Jul 2011 01:33

Thank you so very much Dee and Batman'sDaughter. Will post back once I go through this wonderful information. It sure would solve a mystery.
Regards Kaye

Kaye

Kaye Report 7 Jul 2011 20:47

Dee and Batman'sDaughter, what a great find, I never thought this boy would be found in the UK, that the father took the younger of the two boys to the UK. Is it possible to find shipping information when Henry Charles Adeney (boy) left Lyttleton, Christchurch, NZ to the UK, which would have to between 1880 and 1891. His father, Charles Adeney was a sea merchant so he may have been crew.

I'm still looking for what happened to the other boy, George Adeney (or Perry) in NZ after his stepfather caused him injuries resulting in court appearances.

Kaye

Kaye Report 7 Jul 2011 23:34

Hi Helen,

Thanks, I ordered that death certificate a few weeks back and was disappointed on its arrival to find it was a totally different family. Appreciate your assistance. The search continues. Thanks Kaye