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Mary E Barnett from Messingham Lincs

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Julie

Julie Report 22 Aug 2008 11:54

Hi I am trying to find info on Mary E Barnett who married Alf Drayton in 1889. I have found marriage record for Alf but can't find corresponding record for Mary. According to 1901 census they were married but don't know why I cant find marriage record under her name. Alfs record is Glanford 7a 1505
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Julie

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 22 Aug 2008 11:56

Do you have a birth cert showing both of the names?



Query on name?
Marriages Jun 1889 (>99%)
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Clark John Glanford B. 7a 1505
DRAYTON Alfred Glanford B. 7a 1505
Hulton Kate Glanford B. 7a 1505
Scupholme Mary Elizabeth Glanford B. 7a 1505

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 22 Aug 2008 11:57

For info,

Marriages Jun 1889
Clark John Glanford B. 7a 1505
DRAYTON Alfred Glanford B. 7a 1505
Hulton Kate Glanford B. 7a 1505
Scupholme Mary Elizabeth Glanford B. 7a
1505

Are you sure on her name??

Dee x

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 22 Aug 2008 11:59

1901 is this the right family?

Name: Alf Drayton
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary E
Gender: Male
Where born: Crosby, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: Flixborough
Ecclesiastical parish: Flixborough All Saints
Town: Flixborough
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Glanford Brigg
Sub registration district: Winterton
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Wm Drayton 7
Alf Drayton 32 Crosby, Lincolnshire
Arthur Percy Drayton 2
Charles Herbert Drayton 6
Emily May Drayton 11 Ashby, Lincolnshire
George Thos Drayton 9
Mary E Drayton 32 Messingham, Lincolnshire
Mary Jane Drayton 3
William Drayton 13 Ashby, Lincolnshire

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 22 Aug 2008 12:02

1891 poss

Name: Alfred Drayton
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary E
Gender: Male
Where born: Crosby, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: Bromby
Ecclesiastical parish: Bottesford
Town: Ashley
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Glanford Brigg
Sub registration district: Winterton
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Drayton 23
Emily M Drayton 1 Ashby
Mary E Drayton 20 Messingham, Lincolnshire
Harold Scupholme 2 Brigg, Lincolnshire

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 22 Aug 2008 12:04

Hi,

Births Sep 1870 (>99%)
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Scupholme Mary Elizabeth Glanford B. 7a 641

this would tie in nicely, perhaps her mother remarried ??

Dee

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 22 Aug 2008 12:04

According to FreeBMD Alf married Mary Elizabeth Scupholme and on the 1891 census they have a 2 yr. old son Harold Scupholme along with 1 yr. old daughter Emily M. Drayton.

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 22 Aug 2008 12:07

For info;

1871 England Census
about Mary E Scupholine
Name: Mary E Scupholine
Age: 7 months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Gender: Female
Where born: Messingham, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Scotter
Town: Scotter
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Gainsborough
Sub registration district: Scotter
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 95
Household Members: Name Age
Mary E Scupholine 7 months
Mary I Scupholine 26
Thomas Spencer 36


Dee

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 22 Aug 2008 12:15

Just for info

Name: Harold Scupholme
Year of Registration: 1889
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Glanford Brigg
County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 673


Births Jun 1887
Drayton William Glanford Brigg 7a 695

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 22 Aug 2008 12:17

1861 England Census
about Mary J Schupholme
Name: Mary J Schupholme
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Messingham, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: East Ferry
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Gainsborough
Sub registration district: Scotter
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 49
Household Members: Name Age
William Carter 16
Alfred Drewry 5
Ann Drewry 46
Eliza Drewry 16
Elizabeth Drewry 8
Emma Drewry 21
Thomas Drewry 18
William Drewry 56
Mary J Schupholme 17 (Messingham, servant)

She was also a servant, unmarried on the 1871

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 22 Aug 2008 12:17

On the 1881 census she's transcribed Mary Elizabeth Seapham but the original looks more like Scupham. Her mother Mary Jane is unmarried, she's a housekeeper to John Walker, a lawyer or sawyer. She has 5 children all marked "illegitimate".

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 22 Aug 2008 12:29

Hi,

The only local birth if we continue down the Barnett road;

Births Sep 1865 (>99%)

Barnett Mary Elizabeth Gainsbro 7a 638

Dee

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 22 Aug 2008 12:30

also found a death for the above,

Deaths Jun 1873 (>99%)

Barnett Mary Elizabeth 7 Gainsbro' 7a 432

Dee

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 22 Aug 2008 12:32

What is puzzling me at the moment is the children.

Can not find Harold in 1901 or any death details.

William on 1901 I can not find him in 1891


Think we need some feedback

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 22 Aug 2008 12:39

The Barnett family are living just outside of Scotter in the 1871 census.

Was mum crafty and named them differently ie; Barnett. She must have been a very determined lady, 5 children, no husband!!

I agree feedback on where the Barnett name came from and like you say where's the rest of the family??

Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 22 Aug 2008 12:48

Found Reuben???

1891 England Census
about Reuben Walker
Name: Reuben Walker
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Messingham, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: Bottesford
Ecclesiastical parish: Bottesford
Town: Holme
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Glanford Brigg
Sub registration district: Winterton
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Reuben Walker 18
Ann White 43
Jane White 13
John White 40


Dee

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 22 Aug 2008 12:48

Marriages Mar 1882 (>99%)
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Burnett Charles Henry Louth 7a 907
SCUPHOLM Mary Jane Glanford B. 7a 907
WALKER John Glanford B. 7a 907


Dee

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 22 Aug 2008 12:50

1891
Name: Elizah Walker
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary J
Gender: Male
Where born: Messingham, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: East Butterwick
Ecclesiastical parish: Messingham
Town: Messingham
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Glanford Brigg
Sub registration district: Winterton
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Calida Walker 9
Elizah Walker 11
John Walker 52
Mary J Walker 47
Sarah Scupholme Walker 15






1891 poss for Albert
Name: Albert Walter
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Messingham, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: Bottesford
Ecclesiastical parish: Bottesford
Town: Holme
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Glanford Brigg
Sub registration district: Winterton
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Maria Cottingham 13
Edith Annie Cottingham 18
Emily Kate Cottingham 6
Ethel Sarah Cottingham 4
George Cottingham 41
George Richard Cottingham 2
Harry Cottingham 3/12
Joseph Cottingham 12
Lucy Cottingham 1
Sarah Jane Cottingham 40
Sarah Kathleen Cottingham 8
Theresa C Cottingham 10
Albert Walter 17



Dee,
We are thinking along the same lines.
Maureen

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 22 Aug 2008 12:53

Oooh,

There's nothing as good as a mystery!!!!

Still stuck with the Barnett bit though.

Dee

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 22 Aug 2008 13:09

Just getting more questions than answers on this.

Who is Sharpe b 1877 on 1881.

Where is Sarah Scupholme Walker 15 , shown on 1891, but I can not find her in 1881

Could Sharpe and Sarah be the same person?