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Julie
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22 Aug 2008 11:54 |
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Hi I am trying to find info on Mary E Barnett who married Alf Drayton in 1889. I have found marriage record for Alf but can't find corresponding record for Mary. According to 1901 census they were married but don't know why I cant find marriage record under her name. Alfs record is Glanford 7a 1505 Thanks for any help you can offer. Julie
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GlitterBaby
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22 Aug 2008 11:56 |
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Do you have a birth cert showing both of the names?
Query on name? Marriages Jun 1889 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Clark John Glanford B. 7a 1505 DRAYTON Alfred Glanford B. 7a 1505 Hulton Kate Glanford B. 7a 1505 Scupholme Mary Elizabeth Glanford B. 7a 1505
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22 Aug 2008 11:57 |
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For info,
Marriages Jun 1889 Clark John Glanford B. 7a 1505 DRAYTON Alfred Glanford B. 7a 1505 Hulton Kate Glanford B. 7a 1505 Scupholme Mary Elizabeth Glanford B. 7a 1505
Are you sure on her name??
Dee x
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22 Aug 2008 11:59 |
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1901 is this the right family?
Name: Alf Drayton Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary E Gender: Male Where born: Crosby, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Flixborough Ecclesiastical parish: Flixborough All Saints Town: Flixborough County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Glanford Brigg Sub registration district: Winterton ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Albert Wm Drayton 7 Alf Drayton 32 Crosby, Lincolnshire Arthur Percy Drayton 2 Charles Herbert Drayton 6 Emily May Drayton 11 Ashby, Lincolnshire George Thos Drayton 9 Mary E Drayton 32 Messingham, Lincolnshire Mary Jane Drayton 3 William Drayton 13 Ashby, Lincolnshire
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22 Aug 2008 12:02 |
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1891 poss
Name: Alfred Drayton Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary E Gender: Male Where born: Crosby, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Bromby Ecclesiastical parish: Bottesford Town: Ashley County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Glanford Brigg Sub registration district: Winterton ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alfred Drayton 23 Emily M Drayton 1 Ashby Mary E Drayton 20 Messingham, Lincolnshire Harold Scupholme 2 Brigg, Lincolnshire
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22 Aug 2008 12:04 |
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Hi,
Births Sep 1870 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scupholme Mary Elizabeth Glanford B. 7a 641
this would tie in nicely, perhaps her mother remarried ??
Dee
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MargaretM
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22 Aug 2008 12:04 |
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According to FreeBMD Alf married Mary Elizabeth Scupholme and on the 1891 census they have a 2 yr. old son Harold Scupholme along with 1 yr. old daughter Emily M. Drayton.
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22 Aug 2008 12:07 |
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For info;
1871 England Census about Mary E Scupholine Name: Mary E Scupholine Age: 7 months Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870 Gender: Female Where born: Messingham, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Scotter Town: Scotter County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Gainsborough Sub registration district: Scotter ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household schedule number: 95 Household Members: Name Age Mary E Scupholine 7 months Mary I Scupholine 26 Thomas Spencer 36 Dee
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22 Aug 2008 12:15 |
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Just for info
Name: Harold Scupholme Year of Registration: 1889 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Glanford Brigg County: Lincolnshire Volume: 7a Page: 673
Births Jun 1887 Drayton William Glanford Brigg 7a 695
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BatMansDaughter
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22 Aug 2008 12:17 |
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1861 England Census about Mary J Schupholme Name: Mary J Schupholme Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Messingham, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: East Ferry County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Gainsborough Sub registration district: Scotter ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 49 Household Members: Name Age William Carter 16 Alfred Drewry 5 Ann Drewry 46 Eliza Drewry 16 Elizabeth Drewry 8 Emma Drewry 21 Thomas Drewry 18 William Drewry 56 Mary J Schupholme 17 (Messingham, servant) She was also a servant, unmarried on the 1871
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MargaretM
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22 Aug 2008 12:17 |
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On the 1881 census she's transcribed Mary Elizabeth Seapham but the original looks more like Scupham. Her mother Mary Jane is unmarried, she's a housekeeper to John Walker, a lawyer or sawyer. She has 5 children all marked "illegitimate".
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BatMansDaughter
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22 Aug 2008 12:29 |
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Hi,
The only local birth if we continue down the Barnett road;
Births Sep 1865 (>99%)
Barnett Mary Elizabeth Gainsbro 7a 638
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BatMansDaughter
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22 Aug 2008 12:30 |
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also found a death for the above,
Deaths Jun 1873 (>99%)
Barnett Mary Elizabeth 7 Gainsbro' 7a 432
Dee
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GlitterBaby
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22 Aug 2008 12:32 |
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What is puzzling me at the moment is the children.
Can not find Harold in 1901 or any death details.
William on 1901 I can not find him in 1891
Think we need some feedback
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22 Aug 2008 12:39 |
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The Barnett family are living just outside of Scotter in the 1871 census.
Was mum crafty and named them differently ie; Barnett. She must have been a very determined lady, 5 children, no husband!!
I agree feedback on where the Barnett name came from and like you say where's the rest of the family??
Dee x
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BatMansDaughter
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22 Aug 2008 12:48 |
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Found Reuben???
1891 England Census about Reuben Walker Name: Reuben Walker Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Messingham, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Bottesford Ecclesiastical parish: Bottesford Town: Holme County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Glanford Brigg Sub registration district: Winterton ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Reuben Walker 18 Ann White 43 Jane White 13 John White 40 Dee
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22 Aug 2008 12:48 |
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Marriages Mar 1882 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Burnett Charles Henry Louth 7a 907 SCUPHOLM Mary Jane Glanford B. 7a 907 WALKER John Glanford B. 7a 907
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22 Aug 2008 12:50 |
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1891 Name: Elizah Walker Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Mary J Gender: Male Where born: Messingham, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: East Butterwick Ecclesiastical parish: Messingham Town: Messingham County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Glanford Brigg Sub registration district: Winterton ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Calida Walker 9 Elizah Walker 11 John Walker 52 Mary J Walker 47 Sarah Scupholme Walker 15
1891 poss for Albert Name: Albert Walter Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Messingham, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Bottesford Ecclesiastical parish: Bottesford Town: Holme County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Glanford Brigg Sub registration district: Winterton ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ann Maria Cottingham 13 Edith Annie Cottingham 18 Emily Kate Cottingham 6 Ethel Sarah Cottingham 4 George Cottingham 41 George Richard Cottingham 2 Harry Cottingham 3/12 Joseph Cottingham 12 Lucy Cottingham 1 Sarah Jane Cottingham 40 Sarah Kathleen Cottingham 8 Theresa C Cottingham 10 Albert Walter 17
Dee, We are thinking along the same lines. Maureen
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BatMansDaughter
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22 Aug 2008 12:53 |
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Oooh,
There's nothing as good as a mystery!!!!
Still stuck with the Barnett bit though.
Dee
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GlitterBaby
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22 Aug 2008 13:09 |
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Just getting more questions than answers on this.
Who is Sharpe b 1877 on 1881.
Where is Sarah Scupholme Walker 15 , shown on 1891, but I can not find her in 1881
Could Sharpe and Sarah be the same person?
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