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ROBERT BARRIE ROYAL SCOTS
KILLED 1 JULY 1916

What do you want to know about him?

You have just made a statement.

Was he really ?


But what do you want to know ?

Not a lot of help I'm afraid:

Name: BARRIE, ROBERT
Initials: R
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lance Corporal
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots
Unit Text: 15th Bn.
Date of Death: 01/07/1916
Service No: 20077
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 6 D and 7 D.
Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL

Military Section Army
Forename ROBERT
Surname BARRIE
Rank L/CPL.
Regiment R.SCOTS.
Military Number 20077
Year Of Death 1916
Volume Volume I.6; Page 181

Hi what info are you after

Name: BARRIE, ROBERT
Initials: R
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Lance Corporal
Regiment/Service: Royal Scots
Unit Text: 15th Bn.
Date of Death: 01/07/1916
Service No: 20077
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 6 D and 7 D.
Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
about Robert Barrie
Name: Robert Barrie
Birth Place: Dunsyre, Lanarkshire
Residence: Cobbinshaw, Midlothian
Death Date: 1 Jul 1916
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Edinburgh
Rank: L/Corporal
Regiment: Royal Scots (Lothian Regiment)
Battalion: 15th Battalion
Number: 20077
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

I think we've established that he died 1916 !!

Was he born Scotland by any chance ?

EDIT :.. as if by magic LK has the answer .

Possibly related


1871 Scotland Census
about Robert Barrie
Name: Robert Barrie
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Grace
Gender: Male
Where born: Lanark, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 642
Registration district: Dunsyre
Civil parish: Dunsyre
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Mains Farm
Occupation: Dairyman
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 22
Line: 8
Roll: CSSCT1871_122
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Barrie 26
Grace Barrie 23
Marion Barrie 1
Jane Wood 20
Mary Wood

Richard has replied by pm

Have pmd and directed back here.
Do you have any other information such as parents wife or an approx age?

This gives a year of birth

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
about Robert Barrie
Name: Robert Barrie
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Age at Enlistment: 19
Residence: Wester Mosshet Cobbinshaw, Lanarkshire
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 20077
Regiment Name: Bn Royal Scots the & Royal Scots
Number of Images: 11

Army Service REcords give his mother Isabella as next of kin

The date tallies with the Battle of the Somme France when it is said 60,000 troops were killed or injured in one day.

from commonwealth war graves commission - THIEPVAL Somme France: casulties 72,195

On 1 July 1916, supported by a French attack to the south, thirteen divisions of Commonwealth forces launched an offensive on a line from north of Gommecourt to Maricourt. Despite a preliminary bombardment lasting seven days, the German defences were barely touched and the attack met unexpectedly fierce resistance. Losses were catastrophic and with only minimal advances on the southern flank, the initial attack was a failure. In the following weeks, huge resources of manpower and equipment were deployed in an attempt to exploit the modest successes of the first day. However, the German Army resisted tenaciously and repeated attacks and counter attacks meant a major battle for every village, copse and farmhouse gained. At the end of September, Thiepval was finally captured. The village had been an original objective of 1 July. Attacks north and east continued throughout October and into November in increasingly difficult weather conditions. The Battle of the Somme finally ended on 18 November with the onset of winter. In the spring of 1917, the German forces fell back to their newly prepared defences, the Hindenburg Line, and there were no further significant engagements in the Somme sector until the Germans mounted their major offensive in March 1918. The Thiepval Memorial, the Memorial to the Missing of the Somme, bears the names of more than 72,000 officers and men of the United Kingdom and South African forces who died in the Somme sector before 20 March 1918 and have no known grave. Over 90% of those commemorated died between July and November 1916. The memorial also serves as an Anglo-French Battle Memorial in recognition of the joint nature of the 1916 offensive and a small cemetery containing equal numbers of Commonwealth and French graves lies at the foot of the memorial. The memorial, designed by Sir Edwin Lutyens, was built between 1928 and 1932 and unveiled by the Prince of Wales, in the presence of the President of France, on 1 August 1932 (originally scheduled for 16 May but due to the death of French President Doumer the ceremony was postponed until August). The dead of other Commonwealth countries, who died on the Somme and have no known graves, are commemorated on national memorials elsewhere.

Richard, the information on the CWGC website was provided by any living relatives who received the letter from the CWGC in about 1921 asking what info they wanted recording, Many people never got these letters, had moved away or died.

So your Robert has no details other than his name.

This can be amended if you want to try. To show where he came from, who his parents were, whether he was married or not. Once you have those details, please PM and I will take you through the process. It seems sad to have have this record, and nothing recorded about his family.

So is Richard ignoring us?

hi
just finding out how to replyto your reply
not certain if robert is the one
all i know his last name was barrie
the one iam looking for was my grandfather
my mother remembers "granny" barrie coming to see her
granny lived in DALKEITH and the family were miners
regards richard

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Do you mean your grandfather wasn't named Robert or you don't think that is the right Robert.??

GWGC............

No Surname Rank Service Number Date Of Death Age Regiment/Service Nationality Grave/Memorial Ref. Cemetery/Memorial Name

1 BARRIE , ROBERT Lance Corporal 20077 01/07/1916 Unknown Royal Scots United Kingdom Pier and Face 6 D and 7 D. THIEPVAL MEMORIAL

2 BARRIE , R Private S/10469 22/04/1916 22 Black Watch (Royal Highlanders) United Kingdom XVII. E. 5. AMARA WAR CEMETERY

www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

No Year Surname / Maiden Name Forename Mother's Surname Other Surnames Sex Age District City/County/MR GROS Data Image Extract

1 1916 BARRIE ROBERT M 20 SERVICE AND WAR RETURNS /MINOR RECORDS 124/AF 0149 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER

2 1916 BARRIE ROBERT M M 21 SERVICE AND WAR RETURNS /MINOR RECORDS 122/AF 0118 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER

Frank
onRichards opening statement he said Royal Scots.

Yes indeed, and then he said..... "not certain if robert is the one, all i know his last name was barrie"

IF that is the correct Robert Barrie then there are photos of his engraving on the Thiepval Memorial which is reserved for missing, or unidentified, soldiers who have no known grave.

http://twgpp.org/information.php?id=49538