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Hi All,

Please would anyone beable to help me find Thomas Boulton born c1815 with his wife Mary Ann nee Nash, they would have had two children with them
William Boulton born Little Marcle Ledbuy Hereford
Sarah Jane Boulton born c1846 Hereford there was another child Mary Ann born c1851 all Herefordshire.

The Boulton had moved to Widnes Lancashire by the 1861 census and Thomas Boulton their father was born in Gloucestershire he was still alive until 1885 he was a labourer.

Thank you all for taking the time to read this and help

Kind regards Costa

I have also looked for them living with Thomas's parents who were William and his mother Hester but have not found them on the census at all.

Just for reference:
1861 England Census
Thomas Boulton
Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Boulton Gender: Male Where born: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Widnes St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Occupation:
Registration district: PRESCOT Sub-registration district: Farnworth ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 350 Piece: 2743 m Folio: 32 Page Number: 9

Thomas Boulton 45
Mary Ann Boulton 41 Little Marell, Herefordshire,
Sarah Jane Boulton 15 Putley, Herefordshire
Mary Ann Boulton 10 Woolehope, Herefordshire
Esther Ann Boulton 1
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2743; Folio: 32; Page: 9; GSU roll: 543022.

Hi Patchem,

Yes that is the right family you have put up for reference.

Thank you they must have been in Herefordshire in 1851 I would have thought.
Kind regards Costa

Sorry, my Ancestry has decided that England 1851 does not exist. Will try later.

Hi Patchem,

No worries thank you for trying I will keep and eye on my thread just in case thank you again much appreciated.

Kind regards Costa

This one ?

Name: Mary Ann Boulton
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Boulton
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 1y
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Boulton 41
Mary Ann Boulton 34
Mary Ann Boulton 7

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Hi MillymollieAmanda,

I do not think this is the right one as Thomas Boulton was born in Gloucestershire he married Mary Ann Nash in 1840 in Cheltenham Gloucestershire and then their children

William was born c1843 Herefordshire
Sarah Jane and also Mary Ann should all be with them on the 1851 they never passed away as I have the marriages for all three.

Thank you for trying to help it is much appreciated it is just a brick wall at the moment and keep going round in circles.
Kind regards Costa

Here you go !!
This looks more likely


Name: Thomas Routon
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1795
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Maryann Routon
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Woolhope
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Ledbury
Sub-registration district: Ledbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 13a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 67
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Routon 56
Maryann Routon 31
William Routon 8
Sarah Routon 3
Maryann Routon 5 MO

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Hi MilliemollyAmanda,

Wow that is fantastic it must be the right one just mistranscribed thank you so much for that it is much appreciated, they have got the wrong dates for Thomas Boulton birth I have him baptised in 1815 with his father William and mother Hester but I know from passed records they can get it wrong.

Thanks again I will have a look for them in 1841 now fingers crossed I will find them.

Kind regards Costa

here's how fmp have them

1851 census
Address: 3, Hoopers Oak, Woolhope

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

BOWTON, Thomas Head Married M 31 1820 Ag Lb Cheltenham Gloucestershire
BOWTON, Mary Ann Wife Married F 31 1820 Ag Lb Little Marcle Herefordshire
BOWTON, William Son M 8 1843 Scholar At School Little Marcle Herefordshire
BOWTON, Sarah Daughter F 5 1846 Putley Herefordshire
BOWTON, Mary Ann Daughter F 0 (5 MOS) 1851 Woolhope Herefordshire

Hi Tempest,

It does get confusing when you see all these it is the right family a gentleman on the boards went to gloucestershire archives and got me the marriage details and Thomas Boulton baptism with his parents name which was great but then the problems started, with going backwards wish that would stay in one place hee hee.

Thanks for the info Kind regards Costa

ah but that would make the hunt for them so boring lol

you're welcome

ps they are transcribed as Bowton on the fmp in 1961 too!

1851

Name: William Boulton
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hester Boulton
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Walbury, Gloucestershire, England
[Westbury Glocestershire England]

Civil parish: Cheltenham
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Cheltenham
Sub-registration district: Cheltenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1gg
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
William Boulton 35
Hester Boulton 37
William Boulton 16
Daniele Boulton 13
Henry Boulton 7
Sarah Boulton 2

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Hi MillymollyAmanda,

That can not be Thomas Boultons parents as Thomas was baptised in 1815 in Cheltenham Gloucestershire .

Thanks for trying and all your help this evening.

kind regards Costa

Hi Tempest,

I know but you not seen my family all sides are everywhere and don't know about brick walls could do with a JCB to knock a few down.

Kind regards Costa

Hi Everyone,

Firstly I would like to thank everyone again for their help on finding Thomas Boulton and Mary Any Boulton nee Nash for me, I know this is a bit cheeky but could anyone please find them in 1841 for me please.

I just can not find them.

Thomas Boulton born c1815 labourer married Mary Ann Nash in 1840 in Cheltenham Gloucstershire.

Thomas's father was William Boulton Labourer
Mary's father was Richard Nash Labourer

Their first child was born in Little Marcle Herefordshire he was was William but that was in 1842 I am not aware of any children born before him anyhelp would be much appreciated :D

Kind regards Costa

1841 England Census
Mary Boulton
Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Female Where born: Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Cheltenham Hundred: Cheltenham County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England
Street Address: Portland Square Occupation: Ind
Registration district: Cheltenham Sub-registration district: Cheltenham
Piece: 353 Book: 6 Folio: 21 Page Number: 37

Mary Boulton 20

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 353; Book: 6; Civil Parish: Cheltenham; County: Gloucestershire; Enumeration District: 10; Folio: 21; Page: 37; Line: 1; GSU roll: 288767.

In the same household is Mary Nash 45, also of independent means.
Both locally born.

Hi Patchem,

Thanks so much for that I wonder if Thomas was serving in the army at that time then or working away from home but it usually says journeyman I have found if they travel.

Thanks again one down one to go

Much appreciated kind regards Costa

Is Mary actually Ann, or have you found a birth?
ANN NASH
Christening: 11 JAN 1818 Little Marcle, Hereford, England
Father: RICHARD NASH Mother: MARY
C137191

Hi Patchem.

That is interesting no I had not found her birth I have been going from her marriage cert to Thomas Boulton.

It has Mary Ann Nash on there with father Richard Nash.
So that is what I thought maybe she added Mary I am not sure

Kind regards Costa :S