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Scottish Births, Marriage & Census Records

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Janet

Janet Report 24 Feb 2011 19:37

I am trying to find out more about Marrone Burton born in Leith/Glasgow circa 1823. I believe Marrone appears on the 1841 Scottish Census with her mother Margaret Burton born circa 1800 and some of her siblings.
I think she may have married a man with the surname of Wilson around 1843 in Scotland. On the 1851 English Census Marrone appears as Marrone Wilson with her daughter Janette (born in Scotland) and Elizabeth (born in Pancras, London).

If anyone has access to the Scottish records, any info you can provide would be much appreciated.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 24 Feb 2011 19:50

should it be Marion?

Janet

Janet Report 24 Feb 2011 19:56

Hi Ann

No definitely Marrone.

Janet

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Feb 2011 20:27

Hello Janet, have you looked on Scotland's People - http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

It's pay to view but reasonably priced.

Janet

Janet Report 24 Feb 2011 20:46

Hi Marie

I have tried the free search for Marrone Burton on the site but it says there are no exact matches.

mgnv

mgnv Report 24 Feb 2011 22:20

You could try FreeCEN - most of RFW, LKS & MLN are transcribed for 1841.

http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

alviegal

alviegal Report 24 Feb 2011 22:36

1841 for her for reference. Not seeing the 1851 though.

1841 Scotland Census
about Marrone Burton
Name: Marrone Burton
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Mearns
County: Renfrewshire
Address: Main Str Mairs Land
Parish Number: 571
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Burton 40
Marrone Burton 18
Elizabeth Burton 10
William Burton 8
Janet Burton 4
Daniel Burton 4
Susan Burton 2
>>William Marshall 20
James Paterson 35
Isabel Paterson 50
Isbel Paterson 20
James Paterson 17
Margaret Paterson 15
William Paterson 16
Alexander Paterson 14

alviegal

alviegal Report 24 Feb 2011 22:42

Possible for Daniel.

DANIEL BURTON Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
19 MAR 1837 Erskine, Renfrew, Scotland
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: DANIEL BURTON Family
Mother: MARGARET MARSHALL


1851 Scotland Census
about Daniel Barton
Name: Daniel Barton
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relationship: Son
Mother's Name: Margaret Barton
Gender: Male
Where born: Erskine, Renfrewshire
Parish Number: 622
Civil parish: Calton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Bartholomew's Road
Occupation: Bleachfield Worker
ED: 7E
Page: 20 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 72
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1851_147
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Barton 50 Calder, Lanarkshire
Agnes Barton 27 Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Elizabeth Barton 20 Erskine, Renfrewshire
Janet Barton 16 Erskine, Renfrewshire
Daniel Barton 14 Erskine, Renfrewshire
Susan Barton 11 Mearns Parish, Renfrewshire
William Barton 2 Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Isabella Vernon 22
Jane Carmichael 22




1861 Scotland Census
about Daniel Burton
Name: Daniel Burton
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relationship: Son
Mother's Name: Margaret Burton
Gender: Male
Where born: Erskine, Renfrew
Registration Number: 644/3
Registration district: Bridgeton
Civil parish: Glasgow Calton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 37 Dale St Back
Occupation: Jobbing Dayer
ED: 73
Household schedule number: 21
Line: 11
Roll: CSSCT1861_101
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Burton 60
Janet Burton 26
Daniel Burton 24
Susan Burton 22
William Burton 12
David Matheron 14

alviegal

alviegal Report 24 Feb 2011 23:06

Can anyone post the 1851 census with Marrone Wilson on it please? I can't find it at all.

Liz

Janet

Janet Report 25 Feb 2011 19:05

Hi Liz

Thanks for all your have found so far.

If you search the 1851 census on Genes and input Elizabeth Wilson, b1846, London it will bring her up. It says Elizabeth's location in 1851 is Ratcliff, Stepney. When you go into the record you will see her mother Marrone Wilson and sister Janette.

Would be very interested to hear if you find Marrone marrying Mr Wilson.

Janet

Catherine

Catherine Report 25 Feb 2011 20:45

The only births recorded for Margaret and danile on SP:

1 19/03/1837 BURTON DANIEL DANIEL BURTON/MARGARET MARSHALL FR455 M ERSKINE /RENFREW 563/00 0020 0028
2 16/08/1829 BURTON WILLIAM DANIEL BURTON/MARGARET MARSHALL FR2236 CHILD 3 M BARONY GLASGOW CITY CITY/LANARK 622/00 0080 0463

Catherine

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 25 Feb 2011 22:24

Leith is East coast near Edinburgh.Glasgow is West coast.
MARION BURTON Pedigree
Female
Spouse: JAMES TURNBULL Family
Marriage: 10 DEC 1843 Mearns, Renfrew, Scotland


alviegal

alviegal Report 26 Feb 2011 19:47

1851 on fmp. Does look like Marrone on image.

WILSON, Marion Head Married F 28 1823
Leith VIEW
WILSON, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 5 1846
London VIEW
WILSON, Janeett Daughter Unmarried F 2 1849
Leith VIEW
PARKS, Abraham Visitor Married M 50 1801 Royal Navy
Kent VIEW
PARKS, Sarah Visitor Married F 58 1793
Kent VIEW
DONOVAN, Mary Servant Unmarried F 25 1826
London VIEW
RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1551 Folio:
304 Page:
28

Registration District:
Stepney Sub District:
Ratcliff Enumeration District:
10 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Saint Dunstans

Civil Parish:
Stepney Municipal Borough:
Address:
17, Belgrave Street, Stepney County:
Middlesex


and ancestry. No wonder I couldn't find them.

1851 England Census
about Marson Wilson
Name: Marson Wilson
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Leith

Civil parish: Stepney
Ecclesiastical parish: St Dunstan
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View image

Registration district: Stepney
Sub-registration district: Ratcliff
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 82
Household Members:
Name Age
Marson Wilson 28
Elizth Wilson 5
Jancett Wilson 4
Abraham Parks 50
Sarah Parks 53
Mary Donovan 25

alviegal

alviegal Report 26 Feb 2011 20:52

I wonder if these are the same people. Leith and Mearns are opposite sides of the country as Ellen has said. Do you have birth certificates for the 2 girls or anything more on them?

Liz

Janet

Janet Report 27 Feb 2011 17:50

I have no birth certificates but I think my best option would be to order the marriage certificate for James Humphries and Elizabeth Wilson in the hope that it will indicate her father's name.

alviegal

alviegal Report 27 Feb 2011 20:55

Here it is here Janet. Witnesses were Edward and Mary Ann Garner.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Elizabeth Wilson
Name: Elizabeth Wilson of Queens Terrace
Spouse Name: James Humphries labourer of Queens Terrace
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 02 Feb 1868
Parish: All Saints, Poplar
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Stephen Wilson labourer
Spouse Father Name: John Humphries labourer

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 27 Feb 2011 21:06

On Freecen, she is Marrion in 1841 - you could check the original on Scotlandspeople.

Piece: SCT1841/571 Place: Mearns -Renfrewshire Enumeration District: 1a
Civil Parish: Mearns Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 1 Page: 14
Address: Main Street, Muirs Land



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Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
BURTON Margaret F 40 Spirit Dealer Outside Census County (1841)
BURTON Marrion F 18 Outside Census County (1841)
BURTON Elizabeth F 10 Renfrewshire
BURTON William M 8 Renfrewshire
BURTON Janet F 6 Renfrewshire
BURTON Daniel M 4 Renfrewshire
BURTON Susan F 2 Renfrewshire
MARSHALL William M 20 Ag Lab Outside Census County (1841)


rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 27 Feb 2011 21:22

This looks like a possible marriage for the Marion in the above census. The same marriage as Ellen has already posted. Like Aviegal, I wonder if these are the same Marions?

MARION BURTON Marriages:
Spouse: JAMES TURNBULL Family
Marriage: 10 DEC 1843 Mearns, Renfrew, Scotland

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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.


Also, the 8141 census doesn't give relationships to the Head of Household. There is 8 years between Marion and the next presumed sibling. It is possible that Margaret had been married previously and Marion wasn't born a Burton?


Janet

Janet Report 2 Mar 2011 19:24

Thanks you to you all for your help. I am a little preoccupied at present getting ready to go on holiday tomorrow but will pick this up again when I return.