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I am trying to find the parents of my great grandfather, William Campbell. William was born in Newcastle upon Tyne c 1822 but spent most of his farming at Nigg and Durris in Kincardineshire, Scotland. William married Elizabeth Reid in 1849 and died in Durris in 1888. The official record of his death does not give the names of his parents. Can anyone help me?

This is him I guess? I assume you do not have his marriage cert - I understand these hold info about both parents.

1851 Scotland Census

Name: William Campbell
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1823
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Newcastle, England
Parish Number: 266
Civil parish: Nigg
County: Kincardineshire
Address: North Loirstone
Occupation: Crofter 20 Acres

Roll: CSSCT1851_56
Household Members:
Name Age
William Campbell 28
Elizabeth Campbell 24
William Campbell 3 Mo
Mary Coutte 12

If he married in Scotland, there won't be a cert.

Civil registration in Scotland commenced in 1855

Really? Learnt something there!
Jan

Hi Brummiejan
That is him. I do have an OPR for his 1849 marriage but it does not state who his parents were. Only when civil registration was introduced in Scotland in 1855 was there a requirement for the names of the parents to be included on the marriage record

Colin...A quick search of Northumberland (1881 Census) shows a number of Campbells living in and around the area who where born abt.same time as William and listed as b Ncle....may be worthwhile looking at them see if any names sound familiar...

Hi Eringobragh1916
I am afraid there are far too many Campbell families living in Newcastle upon Tyne around 1820 to research adequately and it is very hard to link them to Kincardineshire. Two questions occur. If William's parents resided in Newcastle, why is he to be found farming in Nigg, Kincardineshire? Alternatively, if his parents resided in Nigg, why was William born in Newcastle? Remember this was at a time when travel around the UK was difficult

Colin...The idea of looking at those Campbells on the 1881 Census b.Ncle. and around abt the same time as Wm. was to see if a link may established through naming patterns..there is actually only 23 Cambell's families listed having someone within the age group..I dont have access to any earlier ones to check for you...
I wouldn't put to much emphasis on a link between Ncle/Kinc. or vice versa..People travelled all over the place following the work..Some of my Scottish Ancestors originated in Rae (Highlands) and ended up on the Tyne...

Hi Eringobragh1916. I am not sure I understand what you are suggesting I do. I have already looked at the 1841 Census for Newcastle and can only find one William Campbell of roughly the right age but he was born in Scotland. I have also looked at the 1841 Census for the whole of Scotland and can only find one WC of the right age who was born in England, but I think he was actually born in Woolwich, Kent rather than Newcastle

Hi All
I would be interested to hear of any household in the 1851 Census of the parish of Nigg, Kincardineshire with a male or female Campbell aged 48 and over in it

This is the only one coming up on Freecen. Age a bit out. Same address as the 1851 census mentioned above.



Piece: SCT1851/266 Place: Nigg -Kincardineshire Enumeration District: 3
Civil Parish: Nigg Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 200 Page: 5 Schedule: 18
Address: North Loirston

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
CAMPBELL Alexander Head M M 45 Quarrier Employs 10 Labourers Kincardineshire - Nigg
CAMPBELL Margaret Wife M F 33 Kincardineshire - Nigg
CAMPBELL John Son - M 9 Scholar Kincardineshire - Nigg
CAMPBELL Alexander Son - M 8 At Home Kincardineshire - Nigg
CAMPBELL Margaret Dau - F 6 Scholar Kincardineshire - Nigg
CAMPBELL James Son - M 4 Scholar Kincardineshire - Nigg
CAMPBELL Isobella Dau - F 2 Scholar Kincardineshire - Nigg
CAMPBELL Robert Son - M 9m Unknown - -
ROBERTSON John Uncle W M 87 Formerly Labourer Aberdeenshire - Crathie
KYNOCH John Knox Servnt U M 50 Labourer Angus - Montrose
BENZIE Margaret Servnt U F 15 House Servant Aberdeenshire - Banchory

Hi Helen
Alexander & Margaret can't be William's parents (he was 28 in 1851) but they could relatives. What about a household in the 1841 Census in Nigg with a male/female Campbell aged 38 and over in it?
Colin

Since my last post, I have discovered a James and Anne Campbell living in South Loirston, Nigg, Kincardineshire in the 1841 and 1851 Censuses. They are aged 73 and 70 in 1851 and so could just be my William's parents agewise. Interestingly James is descibed in the Censuses as being a Chelsea Pensioner from the Royal Artillery so he must have travelled a lot which could explain why my William was born in Newcastle upon Tyne. James & Anne were married in Nigg in 1806 and according to the IGI had children named Margaret b 1817, Walter b 1818, Ann b 1821 and George b 1823. I believe they also had two children, William b 1815 and James b 1817 who died as babies. There is also the possibility that my William b 1822 was an illegitimate son of James.
Does anyone have any advice to give on the above?
Colin

Another poosibility that has occured to me is that agewise, my William Campbell b c1822 could just be the illegitimate son of Alexander Campbell b 1805 (referred to by Helen above) prior to his marriage to Margaret. In the 1851 Census, Alexander Campbell was a quarrier at North Loirston, Nigg, Kincardineshire whilst my William was a crofter at North Loirston. More than a coincidence? Does anyone have any views?
Colin

These are also children of a James Campbell and Ann from the IGI:

. ANN CAMPBELL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 25 OCT 1822 Christ Church, Tynemouth, Northumberland, England

2. WILLIAM CAMPBELL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 21 MAY 1820 Christ Church, Tynemouth, Northumberland, England

3. JAMES CAMPBELL - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 30 AUG 1818 Christ Church, Tynemouth, Northumberland, England

Colin - re:
Remember this was at a time when travel around the UK was difficult

It wasn't really so difficult to take a boat from Newcastle to Aberdeen.
I've got one family of farmers who continually seem to flit between Kirkwall, Orkney Islands, and Fraserburgh, Aberdeenshire - OK, it's only 120 m, not 170 m like you're talking abt, but still...

Hi Potty
I thank you for your interest
I was aware of this interesting family before. The parents are James Campbell who was a master mariner and Ann Hogarth. Unfortunately for me, I found a William Campbell aged 31 in the 1851 Census still living in Tynemouth who I concluded was James's son above. He was also a master mariner. My William Campbell was definitely living in Nigg, Kincardineshire along with his wife in the 1851 Census
Regards
Colin