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Dorothy Daisy Davis

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Fillionous

Fillionous Report 26 Mar 2010 22:58

I am trying to find information on Dorothy Daisy Davis - born 21st April 1900 - died 18th April 1983.
Famliy faded memory has her having Welsh connections - being born there or having Welsh parents, but in early age moving probably directly to London. But maybe elsewhere on route.
I know it is in London that she meets her Husband William George Cload, and I believe she is living there at that time.
I have tried the usual searches in BMD and Census returns but the combination of a comman name and absent family memories or records has left this as a tantalizing gap in my research and I would appreciate any help you good GR folks can offer in finding her and her parents / siblings etc. Thanks!
Be bright, be bold
Fillionous aka Pauline

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 26 Mar 2010 23:02

Davis spelt differently ??

Births Jun 1900 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Davies Dorothy Daisy Newport M 11a 229



EDIT

Marriages Jun 1928 (>99%)
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Davies Dorothy D Cload Hammersmith 1a 335

Not giving groom's christian name, but Davis is spelt Davies

here it is on Ancestry

Name: William G Cload
Spouse Surname: Davies
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1928
Registration district: Hammersmith
Registration county (inferred): London
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 535

Not giving bride's name

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 26 Mar 2010 23:16

1901 for that birth?


DAVIES, Thomas Head Married M 39 1862 Roller In Iron Works

DAVIES, Ann Wife Married F 41 1860

DAVIES, John Son Single M 17 1884 Marker Sheet Iron

DAVIES, David T Son M 14 1887
Epileptic
DAVIES, Mary H Daughter F 9 1892

DAVIES, Eliza A Daughter F 7 1894

DAVIES, Hilda J Daughter F 4 1897

DAVIES, Dorothy Daughter F 1 1900

RG number:
RG13 Piece:
4962 Folio:
127 Page:
28

Registration District:
Newport Sub District:
Newport EnumerationDistrict:
56 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St John's Maindee

Civil Parish:
Newport Municipal Borough:
Address:
Corporation Road, Newport County:
Monmouthshire


FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 26 Mar 2010 23:20

And 1911

Registration District:
Swansea Sub District:
Llandeilo Talybont EnumerationDistrict:
7 Parish:
Llandilo Talybont

Address:
19 West St Gorseinon County:
Glamorganshire

DAVIES, Thomas Head Married M 49 1862 Might Manager Carmarthen
DAVIES, Anne Wife Married
29 years F 51 1860 Carmarthen
DAVIES, John Son Married M 28 1883 Rollerman Carmarthen
DAVIES, David T Son Single M 24 1887 Invalid 12 Mth Old Kidwilly
DAVIES, Mary Hannah Daughter Single F 20 1891 Dressmaker Gowerton Glam
DAVIES, Elizabeth Ann Daughter Single F 17 1894 Dressmaker Gowerton Glam
DAVIES, Hilda Jane Daughter Single F 15 1896 Housemaid At Home Gowerton Glam
DAVIES, Dorothy Daughter Single F 12 1899 School Newport Mon
DAVIES, George Henry Son M 9 1902 School Newport Mon
LEWIS, George Lodger Widower M 41 1870 School Carmarthen


But her birth or marriage cert as posted by LiverBird would give concrete proof of this being her.

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 26 Mar 2010 23:23

oh FBG

Wot's that for David T's occup!!!???

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 26 Mar 2010 23:25

Invalid ...is all it says on image,so dont know where the transcriber got the rest from !
And of course his birth place is Kidwelly in Carmarthenshire.

Hes down as Epileptic on 1901.

Night manager...on image. for Thomas.

And to add that 7 children born and 7 living..

Fillionous

Fillionous Report 28 Mar 2010 15:58

Wow thanks - What wonderful quick replies...

This lady is my father-in-law's mother, but he has a terrible memory for family details and he has not even got a picture of her let alone any real records. As he is an only child I have no one else to ask and had to take it as read that he had got her name right!

I think I have some certificates to order to confirm things... hopefully I can get that branch of the family going. (I have done much better with the paternal line and my own family)
Thanks again!

Be bright, be bold

Pauline aka Fillionous

Fillionous

Fillionous Report 28 Jun 2011 16:40

I have recently been given access to some documents that turned up in a massive tidy of my FiL's house...

I now have a Birth cert for Dorothy - which name her father as William Llewellyn Davies and her mother as Elizabeth Helen Main
and a marraige cert for those two, Married on the 1st Aug 1886 in Parish Church St Woolos Holy Trinity, Monmouth.

It apears the folks you found before are not my family...
Again I am hitting a dead end... any ideas? Thanks...

BE bright, be bold
Fillionous
aka
Pauline

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 28 Jun 2011 16:56

What is Williams occupation on Dorothys birth and what is the address please?
What age does it give for Elizabeth and William on the marriage cert and their fathers names and their address?

Fillionous

Fillionous Report 28 Jun 2011 17:24

These are all cut and pastes from the info I have gathered... hope it is of some help (Bernard is my FiL fyi)

Got Marriage Cert of William Ll Davies and Elizabeth H. Main from Bernards Documents file. Lists William Ll Davies as a Puddler? in 1886
I have William being born about 1866.
Father is listed as Thomas Davies (weaver)

E.H.Main born Aug 1865 (not got an exact date) Father listed as Samuel Main (milker) on M. cert.from Bernards docs file

Dorothys B. Cert is water damaged and is mostly illegable so I have nothing else I can add. Sorry.

BE happy and all that
Pauline


FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 28 Jun 2011 17:42

So that looks like Elizabeth...

Births Dec 1865
Main Elizabeth Ellen Wellington Som. 5c 402

1871


MAIN, Samuel Head M 40 1831 Devon>>>MILLER..
MAIN, Elizabeth Wife F 37 1834 Devon
MAIN, Henry R Son M 12 1859 Somerset
MAIN, Robert C Son M 10 1861 Devon
MAIN, Elijah G Son M 8 1863 Devon
MAIN, Elizabeth Daughter F 5 1866 Devon

Registration District:
Newport Sub District:
Newport Enumeration District:
17 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
St Woollos Municipal Borough:
Newport Address:
Potter Street, St Woollos, Newport County:
Monmouthshire

1881
MAIN, Saml Head Married M 50 1831 Miller
Mastiers P&sl
MAIN, Elizbt Wife Married F 47 1834
Mills Farm Burles Combe
Devon
MAIN, Robt Son Single M 20 1861 Engine Cleaner (Rail Lab)
Pugham Mill
Devon
MAIN, Elijah G Son Single M 18 1863 Miller
Pugham Mill
Devon
MAIN, Elizbt H Daughter Single F 15 1866
Pugham Mill
Devon
MAIN, Fredk W Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar
Portland ST
Monmouthshire

Registration District:
Newport Sub District:
Newport Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
St Woollos Municipal Borough:
Address:
1, Portland Street, St Woollos County:
Monmouthshire

Now to work forward....Watch this space for Edits

Still working on it....Are the witnesses on MC any of the Davies family ?

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 28 Jun 2011 18:30

Break for dinner...Back to it in an hour... :-D

GOT EM...William LL on image..Not M...And I think that is supposed to be Lanelly for birth place....

1901
DAVIES, William M Head Married M 36 1865 Retired Dairyman
Canappley
Ct Not ST
Wales
DAVIES, Elizabeth H Wife Married F 35 1866
Devonshire
DAVIES, Herbert H Ch Son Single M 14 1887
Newport
Monmouthshire
DAVIES, Llewellyn S Son Single M 6 1895
Newport
Monmouthshire
DAVIES, Frederick T Son Single M 4 1897
Newport
Monmouthshire
DAVIES, Daisy D Daughter Single F 0 (11 MOS) 1901
Newport
Monmouthshire
COOK, Amelia Visitor Single F 19 1882
Newport
Monmouthshire

Registration District:
Fulham Sub District:
North Hammersmith Enumeration District:
20 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Stephens Shepherds Bush

Civil Parish:
Hammersmith Municipal Borough:
Address:
182, Uxbridge Road, Hammersmith County:
London

Births Mar 1895
Davies Llewellyn Samuel Newport, M. 11a 206

Births Dec 1886
Davies Herbert Henry C Newport,M. 11a 190



1911

DAVIES, William L Head Widower M 47 1864 Dairyman Glamorganshire Covenhill GT
DAVIES, Herbert C Son Single M 24 1887 Milk Carrier Monmouth Newport
DAVIES, Llevelyn Son Single F 16 1895 Stock Keeper Monmouth Newport
DAVIES, Frederick Son Single M 14 1897 Monmouth Newport
DAVIES, George Son Single M 3 1908 London Shepherds Bush
COOKE, Mary Ann Servant Married
28 years F 52 1859 General Servant London Bermondsey

Registration District:
Fulham Sub District:
North Hammersmith Enumeration District:
14 Parish:
Hammersmith

Address:
69 Westville Road W County:
London

William says..............4 children born and 4 children alive...So he is lying as Dorothy/Daisy you say was his and Elizabeths as well?

But he does say married 24 years and is a widower.

Deaths Jun 1909
DAVIES Elizabeth Helen 43 Fulham 1a 143

Stilllooking for Dorothy/Daisy on 1911

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 28 Jun 2011 19:36

1891


DAVIES, William H Head Married M 26 1865 Milk Man
Newport
Monmouthshire
DAVIES, Elizabeth E Wife Married F 25 1866
Newport
Monmouthshire
DAVIES, Henry H Son M 4 1887
Newport
Monmouthshire
MELIN, F W Brother In Law M 19 1872
Newport
Monmouthshire <<<<<Main on image...Not Melin

Registration District:
Newport Sub District:
Newport Enumeration District:
17 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Holy Trinity

Civil Parish:
St Woollos Municipal Borough:
Newport Address:
1, Portland Street, St Woollos, Newport County:
Monmouthshire


I think this MAY be William on 1881...Putting it here to investigate.....EDIT.....It is

DAVIES, Mary Head Widow F 51 1830 Dressmaker
Caerphilly
Glamorganshire
Wales
DAVIES, Herbert Son Single M 23 1858 Insurance Agent
Caerphilly
Glamorganshire
Wales
DAVIES, Amelia Daughter Single F 20 1861 Dressmaker
Caerphilly
Glamorganshire
Wales
DAVIES, William Ll Son Single M 16 1865 Aerated Water Manufacturer Asst
Caerphilly
Glamorganshire
Wales


Registration District:
Newport Sub District:
Newport Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
St Woollos Municipal Borough:
Address:
1, Mountjoy Road, St Woollos County:
Monmouthshire

1871..Mary runs a Tea and Coffee rooms...All born Caerphilly?

DAVIES, Mary Head F 41 1830 Glamorgan
DAVIES, Sarah Ann Daughter F 15 1856 Glamorgan
DAVIES, Herbert Son M 13 1858 Glamorgan
DAVIES, Amelia Daughter F 10 1861 Glamorgan
DAVIES, William Lewy Son M 6 1865 Glamorgan
DAVIES, Richard Boarder M 70 1801 Breconshire
CAMBELL, Robert Boarder M 38 1833 Middlesex
CAMBELL, Sarah F 36 1835 Middlesex

Registration District:
Pontypridd Sub District:
Pontypridd Enumeration District:
1 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Eglwysilan Municipal Borough:
Address:
Confectioner Shop, Eglwysilan, Caerphilly County:
Glamorganshire

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 28 Jun 2011 19:57

William Llewellyn Davies born 1864/5...His parents in..........1861

DAVIES, Thomas Head Married M 32 1829 Wool Weaver
Caerphilly
Glamorganshire
DAVIES, Mary Wife Married F 31 1830
Caerphilly
Glamorganshire
DAVIES, Sarah Ann Daughter F 5 1856
Caerphilly
Glamorganshire
DAVIES, John(Herbert on image) Son M 3 1858
Caerphilly
Glamorganshire
DAVIES, Amelia Daughter F 0 (2M) 1861
Caerphilly
Glamorganshire

Registration District:
Cardiff Sub District:
1 Caerphilly Enumeration District:
1A Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Martins

Civil Parish:
Eglwysilan Municipal Borough:
Address:
Caerphilly, Eglwysilan, Caerphilly County:
Glamorganshire

This will give you Marys maiden name....

Births Mar 1861
DAVIES Amelia Cardiff 11a 198

I am not certain I have found Williams birth but I am certain this is Amelias.

Or Herberts
Births Jun 1858
DAVIES Herbert Cardiff 11a 215


Or if you want to take the chance ...

Births Sep 1864
DAVIES William Llewellyn Pontypridd 11a 284

Fillionous

Fillionous Report 28 Jun 2011 20:14

Greetings,

Thanks for your hard work... it is looking distinctly hopeful :+)

The two witnesses on William LL Davies and E.H. Main MC are listed as Henry Richard Main and Mary Gregory.

I am beginning to think there was something of a split in the family hence why he is laying no claim to Dorothy and her apparent disaperance in 1901.? And following on why we have so little about that line of the family.

Thanks again.... I am looking forward to putting all the links togeather and filling out this branch of the family... Bernard will be pleased too.

BE happy and all that
Pauline Cload


FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 28 Jun 2011 20:16

And this is 1911 for Daisy/Dorothy with Henry Richard Main.

MAIN, Henry R Head Married M 52 1859 Insurance Collector Somerset Bridgewalin
MAIN, Susan C Wife Married
23 years F 51 1860 Gloucestershire Gloucester
MAIN, William G Son Single M 20 1891 Carpenter House Mon Newport
DAVIES, Daisy D Niece Single F 10 1901 School Mon Newport

Registration District:
Newport Sub District:
Newport Enumeration District:
14 Parish:
Newport

Address:
31 Lewis Street Newport Mon County:
Monmouthshire


Dorothy is on 1901 with her parents as Daisy as she is Daisy on 1911....I expect that William sent her there after the death of her mother in 1909 what with having a baby George to cope with...