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26 Mar 2010 22:58 |
I am trying to find information on Dorothy Daisy Davis - born 21st April 1900 - died 18th April 1983. Famliy faded memory has her having Welsh connections - being born there or having Welsh parents, but in early age moving probably directly to London. But maybe elsewhere on route. I know it is in London that she meets her Husband William George Cload, and I believe she is living there at that time. I have tried the usual searches in BMD and Census returns but the combination of a comman name and absent family memories or records has left this as a tantalizing gap in my research and I would appreciate any help you good GR folks can offer in finding her and her parents / siblings etc. Thanks! Be bright, be bold Fillionous aka Pauline
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LiverBird1
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26 Mar 2010 23:02 |
Davis spelt differently ??
Births Jun 1900 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Davies Dorothy Daisy Newport M 11a 229
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Marriages Jun 1928 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Davies Dorothy D Cload Hammersmith 1a 335
Not giving groom's christian name, but Davis is spelt Davies
here it is on Ancestry
Name: William G Cload Spouse Surname: Davies Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1928 Registration district: Hammersmith Registration county (inferred): London Volume Number: 1a Page Number: 535
Not giving bride's name
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FannyByGaslight
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26 Mar 2010 23:16 |
1901 for that birth?
DAVIES, Thomas Head Married M 39 1862 Roller In Iron Works
DAVIES, Ann Wife Married F 41 1860
DAVIES, John Son Single M 17 1884 Marker Sheet Iron
DAVIES, David T Son M 14 1887 Epileptic DAVIES, Mary H Daughter F 9 1892
DAVIES, Eliza A Daughter F 7 1894
DAVIES, Hilda J Daughter F 4 1897
DAVIES, Dorothy Daughter F 1 1900
RG number: RG13 Piece: 4962 Folio: 127 Page: 28 Registration District: Newport Sub District: Newport EnumerationDistrict: 56 Ecclesiastical Parish: St John's Maindee Civil Parish: Newport Municipal Borough: Address: Corporation Road, Newport County: Monmouthshire
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FannyByGaslight
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26 Mar 2010 23:20 |
And 1911
Registration District: Swansea Sub District: Llandeilo Talybont EnumerationDistrict: 7 Parish: Llandilo Talybont Address: 19 West St Gorseinon County: Glamorganshire
DAVIES, Thomas Head Married M 49 1862 Might Manager Carmarthen DAVIES, Anne Wife Married 29 years F 51 1860 Carmarthen DAVIES, John Son Married M 28 1883 Rollerman Carmarthen DAVIES, David T Son Single M 24 1887 Invalid 12 Mth Old Kidwilly DAVIES, Mary Hannah Daughter Single F 20 1891 Dressmaker Gowerton Glam DAVIES, Elizabeth Ann Daughter Single F 17 1894 Dressmaker Gowerton Glam DAVIES, Hilda Jane Daughter Single F 15 1896 Housemaid At Home Gowerton Glam DAVIES, Dorothy Daughter Single F 12 1899 School Newport Mon DAVIES, George Henry Son M 9 1902 School Newport Mon LEWIS, George Lodger Widower M 41 1870 School Carmarthen
But her birth or marriage cert as posted by LiverBird would give concrete proof of this being her.
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26 Mar 2010 23:23 |
oh FBG
Wot's that for David T's occup!!!???
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FannyByGaslight
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26 Mar 2010 23:25 |
Invalid ...is all it says on image,so dont know where the transcriber got the rest from ! And of course his birth place is Kidwelly in Carmarthenshire.
Hes down as Epileptic on 1901.
Night manager...on image. for Thomas.
And to add that 7 children born and 7 living..
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Fillionous
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28 Mar 2010 15:58 |
Wow thanks - What wonderful quick replies...
This lady is my father-in-law's mother, but he has a terrible memory for family details and he has not even got a picture of her let alone any real records. As he is an only child I have no one else to ask and had to take it as read that he had got her name right!
I think I have some certificates to order to confirm things... hopefully I can get that branch of the family going. (I have done much better with the paternal line and my own family) Thanks again!
Be bright, be bold
Pauline aka Fillionous
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Fillionous
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28 Jun 2011 16:40 |
I have recently been given access to some documents that turned up in a massive tidy of my FiL's house...
I now have a Birth cert for Dorothy - which name her father as William Llewellyn Davies and her mother as Elizabeth Helen Main and a marraige cert for those two, Married on the 1st Aug 1886 in Parish Church St Woolos Holy Trinity, Monmouth.
It apears the folks you found before are not my family... Again I am hitting a dead end... any ideas? Thanks...
BE bright, be bold Fillionous aka Pauline
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FannyByGaslight
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28 Jun 2011 16:56 |
What is Williams occupation on Dorothys birth and what is the address please? What age does it give for Elizabeth and William on the marriage cert and their fathers names and their address?
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Fillionous
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28 Jun 2011 17:24 |
These are all cut and pastes from the info I have gathered... hope it is of some help (Bernard is my FiL fyi)
Got Marriage Cert of William Ll Davies and Elizabeth H. Main from Bernards Documents file. Lists William Ll Davies as a Puddler? in 1886 I have William being born about 1866. Father is listed as Thomas Davies (weaver)
E.H.Main born Aug 1865 (not got an exact date) Father listed as Samuel Main (milker) on M. cert.from Bernards docs file
Dorothys B. Cert is water damaged and is mostly illegable so I have nothing else I can add. Sorry.
BE happy and all that Pauline
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FannyByGaslight
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28 Jun 2011 17:42 |
So that looks like Elizabeth...
Births Dec 1865 Main Elizabeth Ellen Wellington Som. 5c 402
1871
MAIN, Samuel Head M 40 1831 Devon>>>MILLER.. MAIN, Elizabeth Wife F 37 1834 Devon MAIN, Henry R Son M 12 1859 Somerset MAIN, Robert C Son M 10 1861 Devon MAIN, Elijah G Son M 8 1863 Devon MAIN, Elizabeth Daughter F 5 1866 Devon Registration District: Newport Sub District: Newport Enumeration District: 17 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: St Woollos Municipal Borough: Newport Address: Potter Street, St Woollos, Newport County: Monmouthshire
1881 MAIN, Saml Head Married M 50 1831 Miller Mastiers P&sl MAIN, Elizbt Wife Married F 47 1834 Mills Farm Burles Combe Devon MAIN, Robt Son Single M 20 1861 Engine Cleaner (Rail Lab) Pugham Mill Devon MAIN, Elijah G Son Single M 18 1863 Miller Pugham Mill Devon MAIN, Elizbt H Daughter Single F 15 1866 Pugham Mill Devon MAIN, Fredk W Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar Portland ST Monmouthshire Registration District: Newport Sub District: Newport Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: St Woollos Municipal Borough: Address: 1, Portland Street, St Woollos County: Monmouthshire
Now to work forward....Watch this space for Edits
Still working on it....Are the witnesses on MC any of the Davies family ?
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28 Jun 2011 18:30 |
Break for dinner...Back to it in an hour... :-D
GOT EM...William LL on image..Not M...And I think that is supposed to be Lanelly for birth place....
1901 DAVIES, William M Head Married M 36 1865 Retired Dairyman Canappley Ct Not ST Wales DAVIES, Elizabeth H Wife Married F 35 1866 Devonshire DAVIES, Herbert H Ch Son Single M 14 1887 Newport Monmouthshire DAVIES, Llewellyn S Son Single M 6 1895 Newport Monmouthshire DAVIES, Frederick T Son Single M 4 1897 Newport Monmouthshire DAVIES, Daisy D Daughter Single F 0 (11 MOS) 1901 Newport Monmouthshire COOK, Amelia Visitor Single F 19 1882 Newport Monmouthshire Registration District: Fulham Sub District: North Hammersmith Enumeration District: 20 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Stephens Shepherds Bush Civil Parish: Hammersmith Municipal Borough: Address: 182, Uxbridge Road, Hammersmith County: London
Births Mar 1895 Davies Llewellyn Samuel Newport, M. 11a 206
Births Dec 1886 Davies Herbert Henry C Newport,M. 11a 190
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DAVIES, William L Head Widower M 47 1864 Dairyman Glamorganshire Covenhill GT DAVIES, Herbert C Son Single M 24 1887 Milk Carrier Monmouth Newport DAVIES, Llevelyn Son Single F 16 1895 Stock Keeper Monmouth Newport DAVIES, Frederick Son Single M 14 1897 Monmouth Newport DAVIES, George Son Single M 3 1908 London Shepherds Bush COOKE, Mary Ann Servant Married 28 years F 52 1859 General Servant London Bermondsey Registration District: Fulham Sub District: North Hammersmith Enumeration District: 14 Parish: Hammersmith Address: 69 Westville Road W County: London
William says..............4 children born and 4 children alive...So he is lying as Dorothy/Daisy you say was his and Elizabeths as well?
But he does say married 24 years and is a widower.
Deaths Jun 1909 DAVIES Elizabeth Helen 43 Fulham 1a 143
Stilllooking for Dorothy/Daisy on 1911
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FannyByGaslight
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28 Jun 2011 19:36 |
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DAVIES, William H Head Married M 26 1865 Milk Man Newport Monmouthshire DAVIES, Elizabeth E Wife Married F 25 1866 Newport Monmouthshire DAVIES, Henry H Son M 4 1887 Newport Monmouthshire MELIN, F W Brother In Law M 19 1872 Newport Monmouthshire <<<<<Main on image...Not Melin Registration District: Newport Sub District: Newport Enumeration District: 17 Ecclesiastical Parish: Holy Trinity Civil Parish: St Woollos Municipal Borough: Newport Address: 1, Portland Street, St Woollos, Newport County: Monmouthshire
I think this MAY be William on 1881...Putting it here to investigate.....EDIT.....It is
DAVIES, Mary Head Widow F 51 1830 Dressmaker Caerphilly Glamorganshire Wales DAVIES, Herbert Son Single M 23 1858 Insurance Agent Caerphilly Glamorganshire Wales DAVIES, Amelia Daughter Single F 20 1861 Dressmaker Caerphilly Glamorganshire Wales DAVIES, William Ll Son Single M 16 1865 Aerated Water Manufacturer Asst Caerphilly Glamorganshire Wales Registration District: Newport Sub District: Newport Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: St Woollos Municipal Borough: Address: 1, Mountjoy Road, St Woollos County: Monmouthshire
1871..Mary runs a Tea and Coffee rooms...All born Caerphilly?
DAVIES, Mary Head F 41 1830 Glamorgan DAVIES, Sarah Ann Daughter F 15 1856 Glamorgan DAVIES, Herbert Son M 13 1858 Glamorgan DAVIES, Amelia Daughter F 10 1861 Glamorgan DAVIES, William Lewy Son M 6 1865 Glamorgan DAVIES, Richard Boarder M 70 1801 Breconshire CAMBELL, Robert Boarder M 38 1833 Middlesex CAMBELL, Sarah F 36 1835 Middlesex Registration District: Pontypridd Sub District: Pontypridd Enumeration District: 1 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Eglwysilan Municipal Borough: Address: Confectioner Shop, Eglwysilan, Caerphilly County: Glamorganshire
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FannyByGaslight
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28 Jun 2011 19:57 |
William Llewellyn Davies born 1864/5...His parents in..........1861
DAVIES, Thomas Head Married M 32 1829 Wool Weaver Caerphilly Glamorganshire DAVIES, Mary Wife Married F 31 1830 Caerphilly Glamorganshire DAVIES, Sarah Ann Daughter F 5 1856 Caerphilly Glamorganshire DAVIES, John(Herbert on image) Son M 3 1858 Caerphilly Glamorganshire DAVIES, Amelia Daughter F 0 (2M) 1861 Caerphilly Glamorganshire Registration District: Cardiff Sub District: 1 Caerphilly Enumeration District: 1A Ecclesiastical Parish: St Martins Civil Parish: Eglwysilan Municipal Borough: Address: Caerphilly, Eglwysilan, Caerphilly County: Glamorganshire
This will give you Marys maiden name....
Births Mar 1861 DAVIES Amelia Cardiff 11a 198
I am not certain I have found Williams birth but I am certain this is Amelias.
Or Herberts Births Jun 1858 DAVIES Herbert Cardiff 11a 215
Or if you want to take the chance ...
Births Sep 1864 DAVIES William Llewellyn Pontypridd 11a 284
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Fillionous
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28 Jun 2011 20:14 |
Greetings,
Thanks for your hard work... it is looking distinctly hopeful :+)
The two witnesses on William LL Davies and E.H. Main MC are listed as Henry Richard Main and Mary Gregory.
I am beginning to think there was something of a split in the family hence why he is laying no claim to Dorothy and her apparent disaperance in 1901.? And following on why we have so little about that line of the family.
Thanks again.... I am looking forward to putting all the links togeather and filling out this branch of the family... Bernard will be pleased too.
BE happy and all that Pauline Cload
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FannyByGaslight
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28 Jun 2011 20:16 |
And this is 1911 for Daisy/Dorothy with Henry Richard Main.
MAIN, Henry R Head Married M 52 1859 Insurance Collector Somerset Bridgewalin MAIN, Susan C Wife Married 23 years F 51 1860 Gloucestershire Gloucester MAIN, William G Son Single M 20 1891 Carpenter House Mon Newport DAVIES, Daisy D Niece Single F 10 1901 School Mon Newport Registration District: Newport Sub District: Newport Enumeration District: 14 Parish: Newport Address: 31 Lewis Street Newport Mon County: Monmouthshire
Dorothy is on 1901 with her parents as Daisy as she is Daisy on 1911....I expect that William sent her there after the death of her mother in 1909 what with having a baby George to cope with...
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