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My grandfather was Albert Derrick and in the 1901 census he was listed as living in Camberwell, South London. He had two brothers - Ronald and Cyril and 4 sisters - Ethel, Winifred, Doris and Agatha. His father was called Francis and his mother Isabella but I cannot find anything more out about them and can go no further back even though it says his father was born in Somerset, Bath and I know there are many Derricks from that area but I can't make a connection!! Any help would really be appreciated! Thank you.

Have you bought any certs. I would certainly get the marriage cert of Francis and Isabella ,and if one of the children was born after 1875 ,one of their birth certs too, to find Isabella,s maiden name. .
The marriage cert will give both dads names (hopefully!) and you can then try for earlier census for both sides

For info so we know what we are looking at!
1901 census
Name: Albert Derrick
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Francis
Mother's Name: Isabella
Gender: Male
Where born: Dulwich, London, England

Civil Parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:4 Hindsman Road

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub registration district: Camberwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 245
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Derrick 45 occ School attendace officer L.S.B bBath Somerset
Isabella Derrick 47 b Birmingham Warwickshire
Ethel Derrick 21 b Corfe Castle Dorset
Ronald Derrick 19 ditto
Winifred Derrick 19 ditto
Cyril Derrick 15 ditto
Doris Derrick 13 ditto
Agatha Derrick 14 ditto
Albert Derrick 11 b Dulwich London


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 501; Folio: 110; Page: 45




so seems the family moved arounda bit and as the eldest is 21 the marriage must be pre 1880 and would suggest possibly in Dorset.

still at the same address in 1891 althi Isabella is now Helena M

Name: Francis W B Derrick
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Helena M
Gender: Male
Where born: Timsbury, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:4 Hindsman Road

Occupation:Schoolmaster

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub registration district: Camberwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Francis W B Derrick 38
Helena M Derrick 43
Ethel Derrick 11
Ronald Derrick 9
Winifred Derrick 7
Cyrel Derrick 5
Agatha Derrick 4
Doris Derrick 2
Albert Derrick 1
Vaigaes Alexander 11
Paul R Alexander 6
Eawan Alexander 5
Emma Taylor 34



Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 469; Folio 132; Page 74; GSU roll: 6095579.

and the 1881 mistranscribed as Dorrick and Isabella is back again as Isabella H maybe her second name is Helena!

Name: Francis W.B. Dorrick
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Isabella H.
Gender: Male
Where born: Timsbury, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Corfe Castle
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street address: East Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Schoolmaster

Registration district: Wareham
Sub registration district: Corfe Castle
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Francis W.B. Dorrick 30
Isabella H. Dorrick 32
Ethel R. Dorrick 1




Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2099; Folio: 12; Page: 15; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341506.

Probable marriage of Francis and Isabella

Marriages Dec 1877 (>99%)
Aves Elizabeth St George Hanover Square 1a 770 Scan available - click to view
>>>Derrick Francis William B St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 770 Scan available - click to view
>>>>Dutton Isabella Helena St. Geo.H. Sq. 1a 770 Scan available - click to view
Westrop Edward St George Hanover Square 1a 770 Scan available - click to view

SO seems like they had the wedding at a popular church in London

Marriages Dec 1877


Derrick Francis William B St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 770
Dutton Isabella Helena St. Geo.H. Sq. 1a 770

and I was correct in my assumption that Isabella was Isabella Helena

this cert should set you on your way again

AND I reckon this is Francis Birth


Births Jun 1853

Derrick Francis William Bryne Clutton 5c 669

Clutton Reg district covered Timsbury

Ethels birth - she was Ethel Rose

Births Sep 1879
Derrick Ethel Rose Wareham 5a 291

The district Wareham is in the county of Dorset; information about it can be found here. Corf Castle is in this district.

This could be Isabella on the 1861 but you would need to check her fathers name against the marriage cert

1861 census

Name: Isabella Dutton
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:Back Spring Hill

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub registration district: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 55
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Gouldrick 29
Joseph Dutton 46 occ plasterer ,married but no wife listed b Atherstone Warwicks
Isabella Dutton 13
Joseph Dutton 11



Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2167; Folio: 89; Page: 11; GSU roll: 542928

Winifred Margaret
Births Sep 1883 (>99%)
Derrick Winifred Margaret Wareham 5a 286a Scan available - click to view

Births Dec 1881 (>99%)
DERRICK Ronald Frank Wareham 5a 298

DERRICK Doris Irene Wareham 5a 2_3

Derrick Agatha Isabel Wareham 5a 280

Think that Cyril was really William Cyril
Births Dec 1885 (>99%)
Derrick Anne Elizabeth Chard 5c 384 Scan available - click to view
>>>>Derrick William Cyril Wareham 5a 297

Probably Alberts birth as Dulwich re 1901, was in Camberwell district

Births Dec 1889 (>99%)
Derrick Albert Byrne Camberwell 1d 834 Scan available - click to view

and the 1851 census

Name: Joseph Dutton
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma Handley
Gender: Male
Where born: Atherstone, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Kings Norton
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street address:Queen Street

Occupation:plasterer

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub registration district: Kings Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 75
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Dutton 37
Emma Handley Dutton 37 b Stockton Warwicks
Kate Dutton 6 b Coventry
Isabella Dutton 3
Joseph Dutton 1




Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2048; Folio: 110; Page: 20; GSU roll: 87458.

AND the marriage of Joseph and Emma

Marriages Sep 1843


DUTTON Joseph Coventry 16 392

MOUNTFORD Emma Handley Coventry 16 392

Any Response Julia??? spent quite some time looking up records !

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My father was William Cyril Derrick, born in Corfe Castle, Dorset in September, 1885 of Francis William Byrne Derrick, who was born in Timsbury, Somerset and married to Helena Isabella Dutton. I was born in 1935, and my brother Francis William a year later. I currently have two children (Catherine and John) and three grandchildren (Rory, Bryony and Beatrice). I don't think I ever met our 'Uncle Byrne' as he was known by us. He must have been your grandfather Albert Byrne Derrick, who was, as far as I know a teacher at Sutton Valence School in Kent. But I did know my other aunts and uncles: Ron, Winifred, Agatha and Doris (but not Ethel, who died before I arrived in England-I was born in Paris-though I did know her children, Madge and Joan).

Remind me about your part of the family, and what has happened to it recently. We have not gone much further back in the family tree, though we do lknow a few more fgas
Very Best Wishes. John Derrick (husband of Margaret Spillett).