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does any one now my grandad charles dolphin or ny nan ellen crooke my names cousin ive been told that she was killed by jack the ripper any info would be great thanks.

this is your fourth Dolphin posting Richard - GR do not allow duplicates, let alone quadruplets!!! please delete three

where was your grandad born? and when?

1881 - shot in the dark here - presumably London if someone thinks Jack the Ripper is involved

John Wm. DOLPHIN Head M Male 41 Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Cordwainer
Eliz. A. DOLPHIN Wife M Female 40 Stockwell, Surrey, England
Chas.J. DOLPHIN Son U Male 17 London, Middlesex, England Potman
Annie C. DOLPHIN Daur Female 12 London, Middlesex, England Scholar
Walter J. DOLPHIN Son Male 10 Plaistow, Essex, England Scholar
Arthur W. DOLPHIN Son Male 8 Dartford, Kent, England Scholar
Eliz.A. DOLPHIN Daur Female 4 Homeston, Middlesex, England Scholar
John W. DOLPHIN Son Male 2 Plaistow, Essex, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 1 Newton Ter
Census Place West Ham, Essex, England
Family History Library Film 1341408
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1709 / 56
Page Number 4

CHARLES DOLPHIN Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 30 JUN 1861 Saint Paul, Edmonton, London, England
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Parents:
Father: THOMAS FREDERICK DOLPHIN Family
Mother: CAROLINE
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

CHARLES J. DOLPHIN Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth: 1863 London, London, England
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Parents:
Father: JOHN WILLIAM DOLPHIN Family
Mother: ELIZABETH A.

1881
Thomas DOLPHIN Head M Male 72 Inkberrow, Worcester, England Farmer Of 30 Acres
Mary Ann DOLPHIN Wife M Female 57 Birmingham, Warwick, England Wife
Elizabeth M. DOLPHIN Daur In Law W Female 42 London, London, Middlesex, England Annuitant
Elizabeth DOLPHIN Gd Daur U Female 16 London, London, Middlesex, England
Emily DOLPHIN Gd Daur U Female 11 London, London, Middlesex, England Scholar
Thomas DOLPHIN Gd Son Male 9 London, London, Middlesex, England Scholar
George DOLPHIN Gd Son Male 7 London, London, Middlesex, England Scholar
Fredk G. DOLPHIN Gd Son Male 5 London, London, Middlesex, England Scholar
Benjamin DOLPHIN Gd Son Male 2 London, London, Middlesex, England
Charles HILL Servant Male 16 Inkberrow, Worcester, England Farm Servant Indoor
Sarah BENNINGTON Servant W Female 58 Stauyton (?), Worcester, England House Servant Dom


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Source Information:
Dwelling The Hole Farm
Census Place Feckenham, Worcester, England
Family History Library Film 1341740
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3107 / 80
Page Number 52

victims of Jack the Ripper

Elizabeth Stride (Long Liz)
At 44, born in Gothenburg, Sweden in November 1843, named Elizabeth Gustafsdotter. After becoming a registered prostitute and giving birth to a still born girl, she moved to London in 1866 and married John Thomas Strise, a carpenter, supposedly living in Gower Street, London. The Strides allegedly kept a coffee shop prior to the breakdown of their marriage in 1882. Buried in a paupers grave in the East London cemetery aged 44 years.

Catherine Eddowes (Kate)
At 44, the daughter of a tin plate worker, Catherine Eddowes came to London's Bermondsey district at the age of two. She returned to her native Wolverhampton, with Thomas Conway, a pensioner, who was to father her three children. The couple separated in 1880, victims of habitual drinking. Kate left for London once more, where she lived in Flower and Dean Street. Following a hop picking venture in Kent, Kate was sadly to embark on her final tragic journey via Bishopsgate police cells into the clutches of the evil Ripper. She was buried in an unmarked grave in Ilford on 8th October 1888, witnessed by hoards of onlookers, aged 44

Annie Chapman (Dark Annie)
Annie wandered the East End Streets penniless following the death of her husband in 1886. Annie had two daughters, one of which died in 1882, and a son who was crippled. Buried in secret, at Manor Park on September 14th 1888, by her family.

Mary Nichols (Polly)
At aged 42, The estranged wife of a printer, Polly had five children before husband William eloped with one of her friends in 1877. It was then that she became a drink and prostitution. She Mary Jane Kelly (Black Mary)
At 25 she was young and attractive, Mary was born in Limerick, Ireland and moved to Wales where she married a collier who was tragically killed in a pit disaster. After turning to prostitution in Cardiff, she moved south to London where she worked in a West End brothel. It was at Millers Court that she was found brutally murdered. She was buried at Walthamstow R.C. cemetery on 19th November.

another thread has this ?
my grandad charles dolphin was born 1904 in walsall west midlands my nan ellen crooke was born in 1911 in wombourne west midlands.i am trying to find my great grandads name ive been told it is charles the same but no one is 100 per cent user.can any one help please.my great grandad did work at the grand theatre in walsall i no this was opened in 1890.

lovely - I did ask the poster to delete all but one of his postings as he had four of them

sorry Ann, it looks as if he deleted the whole list of Ripper victims ........way before she was born , and she's too old for the Yorkshire Ripper !!

I suspect a red herring .
Richard has had us on a merry dance.

sorry if you think ive had you on merry dance i am new to the boards last night was my ist night what i have said about my family is true so i been told.

Ah RIchard, there you are, good.

Do you know when your nan died? it just doesn't quite seem possible for her to be a ripper victim ?

If the marriage I found in Walsall is right she was alive in 1930 and having children up to at least 1947 ?

Stay with us and maybe we can solve this.

Right,Lindsey-so this marriage??
Marriages Jun 1930
Crook Nellie Dolphin Walsall 6b 1645
Dolphin Charles J Crook Walsall 6b 1645

Maureen

Yes Maureen it's Crook without an E for the children , including Richard's dad.

Thanks,Lindsey-just saw one of the other threads. I think Astra has him in 1911.
It's certs from here on in!

Maureen

its not my nan its was my nans cosin my nan was born in 1911 and died about 3 0r 4 years ago

ah that makes much more sense! I put a list of ripper victims last night , but she would have had to be a lot older than your nan, and it will take a lot more searching to go back that far.

so you need to build a bigger tree to find which side of the family the cousin was from.

Before the prices go up you really need to get either their marriage cert or his birth cert to find out more about their parents .

this might be her

Name: Nellie Crook
Year of Registration: 1911
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Massey
District: Wolverhampton
County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands
Volume: 6b
Page: 991 (click to see others on page)

thank you my nan was born in womboune this comes under wolverhampton