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All I know is that Ada Farmer had a son, Fred Farmer out of wedlock back in 1912. He was born in Upton Leicestershire. She was said to have worked for a wealthy family as a housekeeper (was only young) had a bit of a fling with the head of the house (as the story goes) Grandad never spoke of her, She was said to have had a drink problem but later in life married and had another son, who is belived to have moved to Australia. Fred moved to Earl Shilton.

If anyone can HELP I would be really really grateful. I just want to know as much as I can about that side of my family.

Thanks in hope
Cindy

There is this Ada Farmer in Upton in 1901 but have to say there are quite a few possibles in Leicestershire

1901 England Census
about Ada Annie Farmer
Name: Ada Annie Farmer
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Francis Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Upton, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Upton
Ecclesiastical parish: Sibson St Botolph
Town: Upton
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Market Bosworth
Sub registration district: Market Bosworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Ada Annie Farmer 9
Francis Elizabeth Farmer 43
Fred Farmer 11
Henry Farmer 4
William Farmer 45


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2965; Folio: 65; Page: 13.

Christine

This looks like the marriage of the one I just posted in 1901

Marriages Mar 1916 (97%)

Farmer Ada A Nickells Mt. Bosworth 7a 159
Nickells Frederick Farmer Mt.Bosworth 7a 159

Christine

FARMER was her madien name as far as I am aware

Hi Cindy,

The marriage is of Ada Farmer to Frederick Nickells and this was after your Fred Farmer was born so it could be her.

The Ada I found in 1901 has a brother called Fred so maybe it's the one and she named her son after her brother.

Do you have Fred Farmers birth cert to see if Ada had a middle name?

Christine

Here is Freds birth reg in the first qtr 1913 but he could have been born late 1912 as they had 6 weeks to register the birth

Births Mar 1913 (>99%)


Farmer Fred mmn Farmer Mt. Bosworth 7a 115

The mmn is Farmer

Christine

I know have more info on Ada Farmer , I was always told she worked in a house as a servant, and the 1911 census shows a page with the following personal info on it:
Personal Information
Name Ada Farmer
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender F
Age 19
Estimated Year of Birth 1892
Occupation General Servant
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Upton Leicestershire
Nationality British Subjects By Parentage
Enumerator Information
Address Holte Villas Atherstone
Parish Atherstone
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms 8
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN18428 RG78PN1107 RD387 SD1 ED10 SN19
Administrative County Warwickshire
Registration District Atherstone
Registration Sub District Atherstone
Enumeration District 10

Can any one help me with what this infomation means and if there is any way any of it might be able to help me?

thanks

Cindy

Hi,

Suggest you try and trace this Ada's date of birth and reference details and then apply for a copy of her birth certificate to confirm her Father's name and occupation. Looks as though this was:
Ada Annie Famer
Jan-Mar 1892
Volume 7A
Page 64
Try looking on the original copy of the Census and it will tell you who her employer was.
This website gives general information on Atherstone:

www.uk-genealogy.org.uk/england/Warwickshire/towns/At...

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I have found a possible link to my family via a family that lived in Atherstone in 1911 (found on the new census) he was Wiliam (something) Stafford 36, he was head of the house, married to Emily Maud Mary Stafford 30 and they had a 3 year old son Ernest Henry Stafford. Then there is there servant Ada Farmer. The house was 1 Holte Villas, Atehrstone. If you are connected to this family I would love to hear from you as I have some questions with regards to my Great grandma, that you may or may not be able to help.

It might be part of the family that is black lists, I can explain more if you ask.

Thank you so much for any help

Cindy

William D. Stafford

England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1875 — Atherstone, Warwick, England
residence: Atherstone, Warwick, England
parents: Richard Stafford

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: William D. Stafford
age: 6
gender: Male
birth year: 1875
birthplace: Atherstone, Warwick, England
relationship to head of household: Son
marital condition: Unknown
profession / occupation: Scholar
address: Grove Cottage Phipps Lane
census place: Atherstone, Warwick, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341730
the national archives reference: RG11
piece / folio: 3058 / 63
page number: 36


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Ada M A Farmer

England and Wales Census, 1891
birth: Birmingham, Warwickshire
residence: England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1891
name: Ada M A Farmer
age: 1
gender: Female
birthplace: Birmingham, Warwickshire
relationship to head of household: Daughter
record type:

thank you, but I believe Ada is a servant in the house in 1911 aged 19 and in 1912 she had a son Fred Farmer. he is my granddad, he has passsed away now but he never know his father and we believe the head of the house was his dad. Could this be with the info you have given and why would her surname be Farmer if he was her dad with a surname of Stafford?

Sorry if the information is a bit blurry
Cindy

Hi Cindy,
William's father,Richard, is shown as born April-June 1846 Sheepy Leicestershire and per the Censuses he was a Hat Manufacturer. Using Richard's entries on the Censuses there are 9 matches to Family Trees.

how that is great news how do I find them family trees, sorry

You made need to upgrade your membership.
At the top of this page click on"Search Trees"
Enter Richard's details using 1881 Census as above
Click on "Search" and matches should appear very quickly.
Then select nearest match and follow instructions on screen to make contact. Usual to start with brief message with details of name, year of birth and location of your record of match with a request if these match with other's tree. Not a good idea to allow access to your or request immediate access to another's Tree. Unfortunately not everyone replies.

thank for your help I hope something comes from it now, you don't know what this means to me if it does. thank you again

Hi Cindy,
Delighted to be of assistance.

This website may be very interesting for you:-

http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/bmd/atherstone_marr_1899-1908.html

There is a marriage of Richard Stafford (Hat Manufacturer) to Annie Gertrude on 10 June 1908.

Do you know who Ada married after Fred was born and the name of her son from this marriage.

If the birth cert doesn't give the name of a father, you must remember that what you have been told may only be a story and you will not be able to prove anything.

Where Ada was in 1911 doesn't mean that she was also working for the same people when Fred was born in 1916.

Christine

Hi Christine,
Does this mean that your posting on 21 April 2008 (see above) showing Fred's birth registration in March 1913 (possibly born 1912) is inaccurate as this could change possibilities in the situation.

Sorry I got the dates mixed up, it was the possible marriage for Ada in 1916 and the birth in the 1st qtr of 1913.

Without more acurate details about Ada it's only a guess at the moment that the one found on the census as Ada A is the correct one.

Christine

No Fred was born Dec 24th 1912. that much I know is fact! and his mother is Ada, who once remarried had another son then, then the facts gets a little blurry as grand dad(Fred) did not want to talk about his mum, partly due to the fact she was a drunk, but either Ada and her new family moved or just the new son moved over seas. I do have Fred's marrage Certificate some where that I will try to find out and see if I can find any more info from it.

THANK YOU, all that are helping.
another question Is there any where I can go to see the hard copies of information on here?

thanks again cindy