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Robert Fenn 1861

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Colette

Colette Report 14 Sep 2008 17:41

Hi im using my friends account to post this but;

Trying to find out information on a Robert Fenn born c1861. He was married to a Mary and together they had 3 children that I know of Alfred, Robert and Anne. Alfred was in the army and died in service of the first world war.

Im looking to find relatives to these so I can go further back on my tree than Robert or even Find Marys maiden name

Any information you have would be great. I think they lived in around Burnley, Lancashire

Thanks
Sheridan Fenn

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 14 Sep 2008 17:42

Do you have any certs at all?

Have you found Robert on any census?

when and where were the children born?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 14 Sep 2008 17:44

1901 is this the family?

Name: Robert Fenn
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Little Marcle, Herefordshire, England

Civil Parish: Burnley
Ecclesiastical parish: Burnley St Stephen
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Burnley
Sub registration district: West Ward
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 197
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Fenn 12
Annie Fenn 14
Mary Ann Fenn 45 Ledbury, Herefordshire
Robert Fenn 40
Robert H Fenn 17



Also on 1891
Name: Robert Fenn
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Little Marsh, Herefordshire, England

Civil Parish: Habergham Eaves
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Burnley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: railway shunter

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Burnley
Sub registration district: Burnley
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Fenn 8
Annie Fenn 4
Mary A Fenn 34 Ledbury, Herefordshire
Robert Fenn 30
Robert H Fenn 7

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 14 Sep 2008 17:51

As a lodger in 1881:-

Name: Robert Fenn
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Little Marcle, Hereford, England
Civil Parish: Dymock
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address: Old Field
Education:

Employment status:

View Image
Occupation: Farm Labourer
Registration district: Newent
Sub registration district: Redmarley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age

Robert Fenn 20
Charlotte Jnns 67
Richard Jnns 70

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2528; Folio: 11; Page: 6; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341610.

Kath. x

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 14 Sep 2008 17:54

Been wondering about this marriage


Marriages Dec 1882 (>99%)
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FENN Robert Thornbury 6a 398
Gregory John Thornbury 6a 398
Hopkins Mary Ann Thornbury 6a 398
James Elizabeth Thornbury 6a 398



There is a Mary Anne Hopkins on 1881 that might fit

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 14 Sep 2008 17:54

With his parents in 1861 census:-

Name: Robert Fenn
Age: 10weeks
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Little Marcle, Herefordshire, England
Civil Parish: Dymock
Ecclesiastical parish: Bristol and Gloucester
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View Image
Registration district: Newent
Sub registration district: Redmarley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91

Household Members:
Name Age

Hannah Fenn 24
Robert Fenn 25
Robert Fenn 10weeks

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1761; Folio: 26; Page: 15; GSU roll: 542864.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 14 Sep 2008 18:00

This looks like Robert's birth:-

Name: Robert Fenn
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Ledbury
County: Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester, Worcestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 414

Kath. x

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 14 Sep 2008 18:02

1871
Name: Robert Henn
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Adop Child (Child)
Gender: Male
Where born: Little Marcle, Herefordshire, England
Civil Parish: Dymock
Ecclesiastical parish: Gloucester Bristol
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Newent
Sub registration district: Redmarley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 95
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Henn 10
Charlotte Jones 60
Richard Jones 60

Not sure the names is Jones - unusual first letter which could be I - so I think this is Innes

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 14 Sep 2008 18:03

Think this MAY be his parent's marriage:-

Name: Robert Fenn
Year of Registration: 1860
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Ledbury
County: Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester, Worcestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 887

Also on the page is Anna Stephens (Hannah on the census as these names were often interchanged).

His birth certificate would confirm his parent's names.

Kath. x

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 14 Sep 2008 18:07

1851 but I need to check the image

Name: Robert Fenn
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Ledbury, Herefordshire, England

Civil Parish: Ledbury
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Ledbury
Sub registration district: Ledbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 5h
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Fenn 16
Charlotte Inns 45
Richard Inns 44
Thomas Powell 65
John Stephens 14



Just wondering if this is the same Richard and Charlotte but listed as Jones on later census

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 14 Sep 2008 18:11

This is Robert Fenn (the father) on the 1841 census but for some reason he seems to be down as living on his own (but he's only 5 ???). He is living in the same house as Charlotte and Richard Harris, but is classed as a separate household.

Name: Robert Fenn
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Male
Where born: Herefordshire, England
Civil Parish: Ledbury
Hundred: Radlow
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

View Image
Registration district: Ledbury
Sub registration district: Ledbury
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Fenn 5

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 425; Book: 3; Civil Parish: Ledbury; County: Herefordshire; Enumeration District: 7; Folio: 4; Page: 2; Line: 6; GSU roll: 288818.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 14 Sep 2008 18:17

Just noticed Glitter's post about the 1851 census.

Do you think this Charlotte and Richard just liked changing their surname?

Perhaps there was something strange about them adopting Robert and then changing their names and moving out of the area (or am I just getting carried away with myself, lol).

Kath. x

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 14 Sep 2008 18:21

Kath,

We are thinking along the same lines.

I think that Charlotte and Richard are the same people on all the census we have posted.


Maureen

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 14 Sep 2008 18:27

I think you are right Maureen. I wish Collette would come back with some feedback.

Kath. x


GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 14 Sep 2008 18:27

1861 ???

Name: Charlotte Jones
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Richard
Gender: Female
Where born: Dymock, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Dymock
Ecclesiastical parish: Bristol and Gloucester
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Newent
Sub registration district: Redmarley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 90
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Jones 56
Richard Jones 56
John Protheroe 25



Living next door to Robert and Hannah Fenn

Colette

Colette Report 14 Sep 2008 18:31

Omg thats so good............ I had the first census where he was married and with children.

I didnt know about him being a lodger tho and thats good and finding the one before with his parents is even better.

Even mary's maiden name is here thank you very much

Thanks a million

Colette

Colette Report 14 Sep 2008 18:32

So now i'll go and look for his parents maybe brothers and sisters see what comes up there

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 14 Sep 2008 18:36

Buy some certs to sort this out.

Get one of the childrens first to get the maiden name of the mother.

Then see if it matches the possible 1882 marriage. If it does then buy that cert. If it does not then you will have to look for another possible marriage.

Colette

Colette Report 14 Sep 2008 18:44

I have birth certs up til Alfred Fenn who was the son of Robert Fenn, which is the Robert you guys think that was adopted by the next door neighbours.

This might be how my family came to live in the Burnley area.

As all the names are matching up so far.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 14 Sep 2008 18:46

Puzzled !!!!

If you have birth certs then why did you not give those details in your original request ?


Maureen