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Trying to find the parents of Thomas Ferns born 1806 in Swinscoe, Staffordshire, England.Any help would be most appreciated

Alida,
My Grandmother was a "Ferns", she was born in Onecote in Staffordshire in 1907 one of 14 children. There are many descendants in the Leek/Ashbourne/Buxton area I dont know if she is a descendant of Thomas you are searching for? I think there may be a possibility? Inez

Do you know of any siblings for Thomas?

Do you have any of Thomas' children's birth certificates?

ValT

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THOMAS FERN
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
Marriages:
Spouse: HANNAH BRAMWELL Family
Marriage: 29 JUN 1829 Stoke Upon Trent, Stafford, England

Do you have Alfred's marriage certificate?

What was Thomas' occupation please?


ValT

Hi Val
All I have is Thomas Fern or Ferns born 1805 married to .......
One child Benjamin Ferns (1849) married ? Ellen
their children Frank (1876) & William Ferns (1874)
I don't know how accurate but I am really stuck with Thomas
Your help would be most appreciated
Kind Regards
Ina Ferns

Did Benjamin live in London???


Name: Benjamin Fern - occ stone sawyer
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Ellen Denny
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 24 Mar 1872
Parish: Holy Trinity, Islington
County: Middlesex
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Thomas Fern - occ mason
Spouse Father Name: John Denny -occ coachbuilder

Witnesses Frank Denny, Rose Denny.

I see Benjamin did live in London, so the marriage to Ellen Denny is almost certainly correct, given his occupation:

Census 1881:

FERN, Benjamin Head Married M 32 1849 Stone Sawyer (Merch't)
St Pancras Middlesex
FERN, Ellen Wife Married F 30 1851 Strand Middlesex
FERN, William Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar Islington Middlesex
FERN, Frank H Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar Islington Middlesex
FERN, Hannah Mother Widow F 74 1807 Buxton Derbyshire

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Piece:
234 Folio:
53 Page:
24 Registration District:
Islington

Civil Parish:
Islington Municipal Borough:

Address:
28, Bemerton St, Islington County:
London, Middlesex

Ellen's baptism:

Name: Ellen Denny
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1850
Baptism Date: 31 Mar 1850
Father's Name: John Denny
Mother's Name: Jane Denny
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bloomsbury St George
Borough: Camden

Born march 11th. Father a carpenter.

PARENTS' MARRIAGE???

Name: John Denny - occ carpenter
Spouse Name: Jane Andrews
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 06 Apr 1849
Parish: St George, Bloomsbury
County: Middlesex
Borough: Camden
Father Name: Charles Denny - occ carpenter
Spouse Father Name: William Hunt Andrews - occ carrier

Thomas Fern/Ferns/Farren wife appears to be Anna, which is also used interchangeably with Hannah, so I think this is the right family, and ties in with the marriage ValT posted earlier to Hannah Bramwell in 1829.

census 1851:


>>>FARREN, Thomas Head Married M 45 1806 Mason Staffordshire
FARREN, Anna Wife Married F 45 1806 Derbyshire
FARREN, Emma Daughter F 14 1837 Staffordshire
FARREN, Alfred Son M 12 1839 Staffordshire
FARREN, George Son M 5 1846 Paddington
>>>>FERREN, Benjamin Son M 2 1849 St Pancras Middlesex

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Piece:
1497 Folio:
489 Page:
33 Registration District:
Saint Pancras

Civil Parish:
Saint Pancras Municipal Borough:

Marylebone Address:
Mill Cottage Lower, Cambridge Street, Saint Pancras, Marylebone County:
Middlesex

same family in 1861:

FERNS, Thomas Head Married M 55 1806 Mason Ilam Staffordshire
FERNS, Hannah Wife Married F 54 1807 Buxton Derbyshire
FERNS, George Son M 15 1846 Labourer St Pancras Middlesex
FERNS, Benjamin Son M 12 1849 St Pancras Middlesex
FERNS, Louisa Daughter F 4 1857 St Marylebone Middlesex

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Piece:
131 Folio:
21 Page:
40 Registration District:
Islington

Civil Parish:
St Mary Islington Municipal Borough:

Address:
5, Bemerton Street, St Mary Islington County:
London, Middlesex

Benjamin and Ellen had more than the two boys Frank and William:

Census 1891:

FERN, Benjamin Head Married M 41 1850 Stone Sawyer St Pancras London
FERN, Ellen Wife Married F 39 1852 St Martin London
FERN, William Son Single M 17 1874 Railway Clerk Islington London
FERN, Frank Son Single M 15 1876 Bookbinders Apprentice Islington
London
FERN, Harrold Son M 9 1882 Scholar Islington London
FERN, John Son M 3 1888 Islington London
FERN, Hannah Grandmother Widow F 86 1805 Buxton Derbyshire

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Address:
28, Bemerton Street, Islington, London County:
London

Benjamin and Ellen had moved to Cornwall by 1911:

Census 1911:

Four children born of the marriage, 3 living, 1 deceased by 1911

FERN, Benjamin Head Married 39 years M 62 1849 Mine Storekeeper London St Pancrat
FERN, Ellen Wife Married 39 years F 61 1850 London Soho
FERN, John Son Single M 23 1888 Mine Surveyor And Clerk London Islington

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
13832 Reference:
RG14PN13832 RG78PN819 RD296 SD3 ED9 SN77

Registration District:
Truro Sub District:
St Agnes Enumeration District:
9 Parish:
St Agnes

Address:
Rosemundy St Agnes Cornwall

Deaths Mar 1933
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Fern Benjamin 84 Redruth 5c 291


Deaths Sep 1919
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Fern Ellen 68 Truro 5c 126

Dear Kucinta
Thank you so much for all your effort :-) and information. Much appreciated, Kind Regards, Alida Ferns South Africa

Happy to help, just wish I could have found information on Thomas's birth at Ilam or Swincoe.

Alida
I see that you are from the Ferns family, South Africa.
My Great Gran Catherine Terry was born a Ferns. My understanding is that her family came from Lesotho and Bloemfontein area.
Have you come accross a Catherine Ferns in your search?
If so, do you have any other information on the Ferns family?
Sheron Stephenson

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