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I have Mabel Hawes dob 1900 age 1, born Halesworth,suffolk, on 1901 census, with mother Charlotte Hawes dob 1878, born Bungay,suffolk.having difficulty reading what relation they are to head of family.
Would like to know where they are in 1911 if somebody would be so kind to look on census.
Many Thanks,
Mike.

Michael, it seems clear that Mabel is the daughter of Charlotte, who is the servant (Charlotte's marital status is given as single):

HALLIDAY, Alexander Head Married M 39 1862 Boot & Shoe Maker Ipswich Suffolk
HALLIDAY, Kathleen E M Daughter F 4 1897 Woodbridge Suffolk
HALLIDAY, Esther F H Daughter F 3 1898 Woodbridge Suffolk
HALLIDAY, Alexandra H J Daughter F 2 1899 Woodbridge Suffolk
HALLIDAY, Alexander J Son M 1 1900 Woodbridge Suffolk
HAWES, Charlotte Servant Single F 23 1878 House Keeper (Domestic) Bungay Suffolk
HAWES, Mabel B G Daur Of Servant F 1 1900 Halesworth Suffolk

RG number:
RG13 Piece:
1781 Folio:
83 Page:
20

Registration District:
Ipswich Sub District:
Ipswich Eastern Enumeration District:
31 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Helens

Civil Parish:
Ipswich St Helen Municipal Borough:
Address:
17, Gibson Street, Ipswich St Helen County:
Suffolk

1911 gives this entry for the Blything Workhouse:

HAWES, Mabel F 12 1899 England Suffolk Leiston
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
10992 Reference:
RG14PN10992 RD216 SD2 ED22 SN9999

Registration District:
Blything Sub District:
Southwold Enumeration District:
22 Parish:
Blythburgh

Address:
Bulcamp Halesworth Suffolk County:
Suffolk

I can't find Charlotte Hawes on 1911, but there are a number of deaths and marriages for the period 1901 to 1911 that could account for her.

Hi Ann-Marie,
I know she married George Gregory in 1919 and died in 1951 in Halnutree Hospital, Sudbury Suffolk. She had another daughter named Charlotte dob1902. in Ipswich Union Workhouse,
Trying to find if she was married when she had these children and to whom???

Is there a reason to think she was married?

You need one of the children's birth certificates to know for sure.

However, the 1901 shows her as not married, and if you search at FreeBMD for a Charlotte Hawes birth 1876-1879 in Suffolk, you'll find a birth in Wangford registration district, which covers Bungay.

Have you not looked for her in 1891 with her family under that name?

On a simple search of 1911 for any Hawes living with a Mabel Hawes:

INSTITUTION HAWES CHARLOTTE 1875 36 Blything Suffolk
INSTITUTION HAWES CHARLOTTE 1902 9 Blything Suffolk

If this is her 2nd child then she still wasn't married as the surname is still Hawes


Births Dec 1902
Hawes Charlotte - Ipswich 4a 1035

Hearsay is that she was married before she married george Gregory in 1919,On this marraige certificate she married as Hawes, which suggests she was single, but,why would her father be listed as albert cook?
I have been trying to find a marraige to either confirm or dismiss the hearsay,
Many thanks to all that have tried, it's really appreciatted
Mike.

1881 England Census
Name: Charlotte Hawes
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Abraham Hawes
Mother's Name: Jemima Hawes
Gender: Female
Where born: Bungay, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Holton
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Blything
Sub-registration district: Wenhaston
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Abraham Hawes 32
Jemima Hawes 29
Susanna Hawes 12
Lucy Hawes 10
Jemima Hawes 8
Georgianna Hawes 6
Charlotte Hawes 3

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1891 England Census
Name: Charlotte Hawes
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Abraham Hawes
Mother's Name: Jemima Hawes
Gender: Female
Where born: Bungay, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Leiston
Ecclesiastical parish: Dunwich
Town: Leiston
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England


Registration district: Blything
Sub-registration district: Westleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Abraham Hawes 43
Jemima Hawes 40
Charlotte Hawes 13
Georgehamah Hawes 15
James Hawes 9
John Hawes 7
Louisa Hawes 7
Rose Hawes 5
Florence Hawes 3

is this Charlotte junior or senior?

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
Name: Charlotte Hawes
Spouse Surname: Gregory
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1919
Registration district: Risbridge
Registration county (inferred): Suffolk
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 2336

Name: George I Gregory
Spouse Surname: Hawes
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1919
Registration district: Risbridge
Registration county (inferred): Suffolk
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 2336

This is Charlotte senior dob 1878
Charlotte junior dob 1902

Sorry people,
i need some shut eye, have to be up at seven,
Many Thanks,
Goodnight.

i have looked at the 1911 cencus and charlotte aged 36 charlotte aged 9 and mabel aged 12 are together in the workhouse.all single all born leiston suffolk.

Thanks everyone,
The confusing issue is she was down as Widow when she married George Gregory in 1919.

If you get a child's birth certificate !! it will answer the question of whether a father was named and who he was, and what name Charlotte gave for herself.

Charlotte could have been living with someone as husband and wife before her 1919 marriage, or, as a single woman with children, could have represented herself publicly (and to her husband-to-be) as a widow, and simply maintained the fiction on the certificate.

possible birth for Mabel


looking at the 1901 census she is listed as Mabel B G Hawes and the family have connections to Blything this seems to fit


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Mabel Beatrice Hawes Name: Mabel Beatrice Hawes
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Blything
County: Suffolk
Volume: 4a
Page: 1079

looking at the later census for Abraham and Jemima Hawes

1901 England Census
about Jemima Hawes
Name: Jemima Hawes
Age: 53
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Abraham Hawes
Gender: Female
Where born: Holton, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Walton
Ecclesiastical parish: Walton St Mary
Town: Walton
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Registration district: Woodbridge
Sub-registration district: Colneis
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 192
Household Members: Name Age
Abraham Hawes 53
Jemima Hawes 53
James A Hawes 19
John Hawes 17
Florence Hawes 13


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here's the 1911 census for Jemima and Abraham

Address: 68 Richmond Road Ipswich

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born

HAWES, Abraham Henry Head Married M 57 1854 General Labourer Bungay Suffolk
HAWES, Jemima Wife Married 34 years F 58 1853 Holton Suffolk

11 children born, 10 still living at time of census

I was wondering if Jemima had been married before she married Abraham, (possibly to Cook).

but I found a possible marriage in 1875 for Abraham and Jemima which suggests Charlotte senior (b 1878) would be the legitimate daughter of Jemima and Abraham.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
Name: Abraham Hawes
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Wangford
County: Suffolk
Volume: 4a


Henry Butcher 1875 Wangford Suffolk
Esther Darrant 1875 Wangford Suffolk
Esther Durrant 1875 Wangford Suffolk
>>>>>Abraham Hawes 1875 Wangford Suffolk
>>>>>Jemima Martin 1875 Wangford Suffolk

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going to the 1871 census looking for Abraham, I found him living with his parents, and then there's the two lodgers

1871 England Census
about Abraham Hawes Name: Abraham Hawes
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Abraham Hawes
Mother's Name: Susan Hawes
Gender: Male
Where born: Bungay, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Bungay Holy Trinity
Town: Bungay
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration district: Wangford
Sub-registration district: Bungay
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 48
Household Members: Name Age
Abraham Hawes 52
Susan Hawes 52
Abraham Hawes 19
Agnes Hawes 16
Lucy Hawes 14
Stephen Hawes 8
Samuel Hawes 6
Jemima Martin 18 (listed as lodger)
Susannah Martin 2 (listed as lodger)

maybe Abraham died after 1911 and Jemima remarried?

maybe Cook is the name of Charlotte senior's step father????

found this which fits in with census birth year, so maybe not as it's after Charlotte Marrying Mr Gregory

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
Name: Abraham J Hawes
Death Registration Month/Year: 1931
Age at death (estimated): 81
Registration district: Ipswich
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 4a
Page: 1013


Does it actually say "Widow" on the marriage cert to George Gregory in 1919?

What does it say Albert Cook's occupation is?

Yes, it say's Widow, and Albert Cook is down as deceased,
occupation, Labourer.