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Hello,

Could someone please help me locate census for this family. The extract below is taken from Farmers in NZ Electronic Text Center. I am looking for Arthur and his siblings, in particular, one of the brothers, Henry Chamberlain who, in NZ, married Edith Hartnell (nee Carpenter).

Grateful for census help and also the shipping record in 1877 from UK to NZ.

Thanking you Kaye

Arthur Chamberlain - Farmer, Thongsleigh Farm, Brookside. Mr. Chamberlain was born in 1858, and is fifth son of the late Peter Chamberlain, of Thongsleigh Farm, Tiverton, Devonshire, England. He was educated at the English Diocesan Church school, Sampford, Peverell. After the death of his father, he, with his mother, two sisters, and three brothers, came to Canterbury by the ship “Loch Fleet,” and landed at Lyttelton, New Zealand in 1877.

1861 England Census
about Peter Chamberlain
Name: Peter Chamberlain
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Tiverton, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Cheriton Fitzpaine
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address: "Thongsleigh"
Occupation: Farmer of 300 acres employing 6 labourers and 2 boys

Registration district: Crediton
Sub-registration district: Cheriton Fitzpaine
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Chamberlain 50
Sarah Chamberlain 47
Henry Chamberlain 20
Eliza Chamberlain 18
Mary J Chamberlain 15
William Chamberlain 11
Peter Chamberlain 7
Bessie Chamberlain 5
Arthur Chamberlain 2
John Chamberlain 7 Mo
Robert Thorne 77 (father in law)

1871 England Census
about Peter Chamberlain
Name: Peter Chamberlain
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Tiverton, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Cheriton Fitzpaine
Ecclesiastical parish: Exeter
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Registration district: Crediton
Sub-registration district: Cheriton Fitzpaine
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Chamberlain 60
Sarah Chamberlain 57
Eliza Chamberlain 29
Mary Jane Chamberlain 25
William Chamberlain 21
Peter Chamberlain 17
Bessie Chamberlain 15
Arthur Chamberlain 12
John Chamberlain 10

1841 England Census
about Peter Chamberlain
Name: Peter Chamberlain
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Devon, England

Civil Parish: Cheriton Fitzpaine
Hundred: West Budleigh
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Crediton
Sub-registration district: Cheriton Fitzpaine
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Chamberlain 30
Sarah Chamberlain 25
Henry Chamberlain 1

1851 England Census
about Henry Chamberlain
Name: Henry Chamberlain
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Epenton Tilz Parin, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Wilton
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Taunton
Sub-registration district: Pitminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 47
Household Members:
Name Age
John Thorne 37
Charlotte Thorne 36
Henry Chamberlain 10

Will see if I can find them on shipping records

The parents' marriage:


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Peter Chamberlain
Name: Peter Chamberlain to Sally Thorn
Year of Registration: 1838
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Exeter
County: Devon
Volume: 10
Page: 143

Thanks Lewella,

Trying to match up the Chamberlain families,

Think I have found his cemetery records in NZ, Ashburton is in the South Island of NZ. Hope you find them on the shipping that would help to know if its the same family.

Thanks Kaye

Record no. A065120
Surname CHAMBERLAIN
First Names HENRY
Occupation LABOURER
Plot No 1 40
Type of Grave SINGLE DEPTH
Cemetery ASHBURTON CEMETERY
Plot Size 85
Age at Time of Death 81 years
Date of Death 27/08/1920
Date of Internment 28/08/1920
Name of Purchaser FREE
Purchaser Address 1 FAIRTON
Denomination of Deceased SALVATION ARMY
Name of Clergy Person CAPTAIN HAWKES
Note OCCUPIED

Can't find a passenger list, Kaye. Have you purchased the death certificate? It may have his parents' details

Hi Lewella,

Thank you so much for doing this research for me, appreciated. Best I do order his death cert, I feel pretty confident I have found the right death. This great family left their mark in NZ, with farming and other ventures.

Thanks for looking for the shipping records.

All the best Kaye

Hello All,

Can someone kindly help again. I'm having trouble locating the birth of Henry Chamberlain. From the census above his birth is approx 1840.

These only births I can find from free bdm, nothing earlier. Grateful for any assistance.

Thanks Kaye

Births Dec 1844
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CHAMBERLAIN Henry Crediton 10 35
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Births Dec 1848
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Chamberlain Henry Tiverton 10 23[18]
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Births Jun 1853
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Chamberlain Henry Crediton 5b 386
________________________________________
Births Dec 1854
________________________________________
Chamberlain Henry Crediton 5b 351

Henry was 1 on 1841 census so I would look a little earlier. Birth Registration was not compulsry at that point.

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~ashleigh/1870-1908/1918.February.PRESS.Snippets.html

Ellesmere - Obituary - CHAMBERLAIN 102
Mr William Chamberlain of Hadstock Estate, Ellesmere -- born 1849 in Devonshire came to NZ in the ship "Loch Fleet" in 1877
----- as far back as 1883 he shipped sheep to the Old Country on his own account ---- bought a cow from John Deans ----
gave the land for the local school ---- was married in 1881 to Miss Withell and leaves a grown-up family.

The Loch Fleet.
The Fleet was a full-rigged iron ship of 713 tons, built at Glasgow in 1872. She began trading to New Zealand in 1877, and made her last voyage in 1886. This ship generally experienced unfavourable weather on the voyages out to New Zealand. She had a very rough time when bound for Auckland in 1878, and was carried of her course, sailing about 20,000 miles. The ship on that voyage left Gravesend on August 16, and passed Deal on the 19th. Variable winds detained her in the Channel until the 23rd, when she took her final departure from the Lizard. Two months later Captain Robertson had a most anxious time on the run from the Cape to Tasmania. The first storm started on October 14, and continued with unabated fury for two days. On the 15th a tremendous sea broke over the ship, smashing the captain's gig and doing other damage. The weather continued violent, and on the 20th heavy squalls came down, with snow and hail, and the vessel lost a stunsail boom and suffered other damage. The ship was driven before the wind, and travelled from 300 to 320 miles a day. Squally weather continued right along to the Leeuwin.

On November 6 the ship encountered another storm, which, said one of the passengers on arrival at Auckland, "will live in our memories for ever." The hurricane commenced at 4 p.m., reached its climax about midnight, and caused much damage to the ship. About 7 p.m. a tremendous sea struck the ship, and two hours later another wave, fully 40ft high, broke over the poop and washed the two men from the wheel. One man was carried the whole length of the ship. The other, coming in collision with one of the hatches, was severely knocked about, and sustained a nasty wound in the head. Fortunately the second mate, Mr. Montgomery, rushed to the wheel, otherwise the Loch Fleet might never have reached Auckland. The decks were completely filled with water, and the heavy seas broke the poop rails and carried everything movable overboard.

The Loch Fleet's passages to New Zealand were:—

To Auckland.
Sailed. Arrived. Captain. Days.
Aug. 17, '77 Nov. 21, '78 Robertson 96
Sep. 6 Dec. 20, '80 Clachie 105
July 9 Nov. 8, '82 Cochrane 122
To Lyttelton.
Aug. 16 Nov. 24, '77 Robertson 100
To Dunedin.
Aug. 29 Dec. 22, '79 Robertson 115
Land to land 102
Sep. 1 Dec. 14, '81 Clachie 104
*Nov. 1 Feb. 28, '86 Jones 120

Hi Christine,

Thank you for the shipping information that was very interesting, also the Christchurch Press link and info. I will follow up with the Library in Christchurch to see if I can obtain copies of Obituaries for the Chamberlain men.

I think you could be right about Henry's birth not being registered as its definately not there... unless of course he was born out of the district even though his census states he was born in Cheriton Fitzpaine.

Thanks again Kaye

What I said was that the births you have posted are unlikely to be right as Henry is one year old in 1841 and the births you posted are after 1844.
Birth registratioon did not start til 1839 and it was not compulsory until much later so his birth may not be registered. There is an online parish clerkfor Dorset but not all the villages are covered yet. With a little patience you will find that they will eventually transcribe the baptismal record.
Hower if you google online parish clerk dorset you may be able tocontact someone for a look up. Alternatively posyt on records a request for a lookup.

Hi, This is a bit late but I can provide full details of the entire Chamberlain family tree. Wendy - [email protected]

Wendy

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sylvia

Hello Wendy,

As well as taking Sylvia's excellent (as usual) advice, it may be interesting for you to see who else is researching your family and would be glad of your information.

If you put some of the Chamberlain names you have into the Search Trees box above, it will show you if anyone else has the names in their tree. If you find a connection, you can contact the tree owner. Cx.

Thank you -advice noted. Had just forgotten I had posted this. Wendy