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hiya suzanne
i have cannell family from iom in tree and one part settled in liverpool
the cannells i know off had a bakery business in iom and the cannell home was (carondean) ( karondean) not sure of spelling but mine in liverpool were thomas cannell and emma caron and they had roughly 15 children i have some on iom family too
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Hello Lancashireann,
I have done a little research on this tree. A cordswainer is in fact another name for a Shoe Maker. Cannell / Quirk is now a strong possibility. On future Census' they state they were born in IOM. Could it be they both lived in Liverpool before marraige and therefore gave their details as Spinster of Liverpool and Cordswainer of Liverpool. What do you think? I have had no joy looking at the IOM sites.

Regards
Suzanne

I would have thought it unlikely that John changed from being a mariner to a bootmaker and with the date discrepancy as well probably the wrong one. Pity. I think I would go for trying to find a marriage in the IOM.

Hi Jean,
I will let you know, if I find anything.

thanks
Suzanne

i have a thomas born 1809 in douglas could be johns bro his parents thomas b 1784 mother elizabeth moore b1784
married 20 /5/1834
let me know

Lancashireann,

dont know if the marraige at St, Peters is the right one and john was a shoe maker on the 1841 census. Would they have been married so long after the birth of there first child?

I will need to look into that.
thanks for your help its very much appreciated.
Cheers
Suzanne

Thanks Jean,
My family were all in the Boot industry. Shoe makers, boot binders and boot closers. I dont have a George Alexander in my tree unfortunately.

thanks for your help
Suzanne

there is this marriage at St Peter's - after birth if 1st child but not unusual

Marriage: 19 Oct 1835 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John Cannell - Mariner of This Parish
Elizabeth Woods - Spinster of This Parish
Witness: Benjamin Bigh?; Jane Howard
Married by Licence by: Jona Brooks, M A Rector
Register: Marriages 1834 - 1836, Page 224, Entry 672
Source: LDS Film 94018

hiya suzanne
thecannells of iom i know of where bakers and the main home was called carrondean may not be right spelling of it
right put wind in sales my hubbys mother was a cannell born in liverpool father george alexander bc1885 but they all on my tree

Lancashireann,

The family church is St Peters. I think that the Ann that was christened there on 30th June 1834 is the one I am looking for. John Cannell there son was christened there on 18th Jan 1836 and James 24th March 1839. All 3 of these children have their parents listed as John and Elizabeth Cannell.

Thanks for your info and help
Suzanne

don't know if this helps but there were no Cannells baptised 1834/5 at St Nicholas Liverpool

Lancashireann.
Thanks for that info. I can now rule out Elizabeth Quirk, unfortunately!

Dont know where to look now. I would hate to think I have come to a dead end already!

Thanks for your help.
Suzanne

the John/Elizabeth marriage record

Marriage: 10 Feb 1834 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
John Cannell - Cordwainer of Liverpool
Elizabeth Quirk - Spinster of Liverpool
Married by Banns by: C. Wray Curate
Register: Marriages 1834, Page 3, Entry 648
Source: LDS Film 1068891

Hi Dave,
I will give your suggestion a go and see if I get any response.

Thanks for your help
Suzanne

thanks Ann,
I have taken a look on Mormon LDS website and found the wedding. Cant find out though if Elizabeth Quirk was born in IOM as there were a couple of Elizabeth Quirks born in Liverpool at around the same time. I thought maybe if John and Elizabeth were both from Douglas they may have married before coming to Liverpool.

Thanks for your help
Suzanne

http://www.isle-of-man.com/cgi-bin/interests/genealogy/bulletin/index.pl?noframes

Suzanne try this board I've had loads of help posting on here, my ancestors are Manx.Very helpful people on there as there are on here ... Dave

Thanks Tania,

That could be him.
Any idea on how can I find out if Elizabeth Quirk was also from Douglas IOM?
There first child was born in May or June of 1834. Elizabeth would have been 5 or 6 months pregnant by the time they married, do you think that was the norm in those day?

I will look into the Quirk family and see what I can find.
Thanks for your help
Suzanne

have you looked on the free Mormon LDS site - as you say, shedloads of Cannells!!!!

http://www.ancestorhunt.com/mormon_church_records.htm

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JOHN CANNELL Pedigree
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Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH QUIRK Family
Marriage: 10 FEB 1834 Saint Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

just a possible???????????

I am trying to find information about John Cannell and his wife Elizabeth. John was born Douglas IOM 1805 and Elizabeth 1803. The lived in Liverpool and I have found them on the 1841, 1851 and 1861 census. They were married before 1837 so how can I trace when they came to Liverpool and what Elizabeths maiden name was. Obviously Cannell is a very popular IOM name and struggling on where to look. Can anyone help? Thanks
Suzanne