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I am looking for Joseph W Poat on the 1871 and 1881 census to try to establish his parents. I have found him on the 1891 and 1911 census where he is married and has his family. From that he says he was born Limehouse [London] and from his age on those census and when he died I think he was born around 1867 to 1869. I can't find his birth registered but I believe it wasn't compulsory until 1875 so that may not be significant.
Can anyone help me please?

Jenny

Take a look at Joseph DOODY on the 1881 census he is with his mother Marian age 35 and also a boarder named Charles Poat aged 27. I rather think your Joseph has taken on a stepfathers name after her remarriage.
Familysearch reveals Joseph William Doody fathers name Peter mothers name Marianne Jolley. You will need to verify marriages for Marianne Jolley/PeterDoody and then Marianne Doody/Charles Poat!!

Could this be his marriage if Doody?


Marriages Dec 1888 (>99%)
DOODY Joseph William Reigate 2a 304
LEE Mary Ann Reigate 2a 304

Births Mar 1890
Doody William Hugh Reigate 2a 169


Births Sep 1891
Doody Peter George Greenwich 1d 1080

Peter Doody marrried Mary Ann Jelley (sic) 1873 Sep Q Holborn 1b 1052
Peter Doody died 1876 SepQ Poplar aged 31 1a 462
Marianne Doody married Charles Poat 1881 Jun Q East Preston (just down the road from me!) 2b 576

1901 census transcription details for: 11, Brook Cottages, Reigate, Redhill

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 626 Folio: 98 Page: 16

Reg. District: Reigate Sub District: Reigate
Parish: Reigate Enum. District: 13
Ecclesiastical District: St Matthew City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 11, Brook Cottages, Reigate, Redhill
County: Surrey
ROSE, George Head Widower M 73 1828 Laborer At Lanyard
N K
DOODY, Annie Daughter Married F 33 1868
Redhill
Surrey
DOODY, Joseph Son-In-Law Married M 32 1869 Gas Stoker
Limehouse
London
DOODY, William H Grand Son M 11 1890
Redhill
Surrey
DOODY, Peter G Grand Son M 9 1892
Greenwich
London
DOODY, Henry Grand Son M 6 1895
East Greenwich
London
DOODY, Marion Grand Daughter F 4 1897
East Greenwich
London
DOODY, Edith Grand Daughter F 2 1899
East Greenwich
London
DOODY, Ada Grand Daughter F 0 (6 MOS) 1901
East Greenwich
London
PEAT, Charley E Step Son M 16 1885 Engineers Labourer
Redhill
Surrey


Maureen

Thank you all for your help. That certainly gives me food for thought. I had seen the marriage of Joseph and Elizabeth and son Thomas and thought that there must be some tie up but could not confirm it. However the stepfather link looks very promising. I am so grateful as it would never have occured to me.
When I tell you that I couldn't find Joseph's marriage and the first two children are William Hugh and George I think it speaks for itself.

Jenny

Thank you Maureen. You were putting your reply on while I was writing my previous thank you. You are so right because I could not find him on the 1901 census either and of course he was then calling himself Doody. I wish he had made his mind up what he was called!
I am actually helping a friend with all this and she said that she was sure there was something 'odd' about her grandfather.
Christina what did you actually search under to come up with the Doodys so that I know for another time?

Jenny

Just found baptism for Joseph William JELLEY!! 17th August 1868 St Pancras Old Church Campden - mothers name Mary Ann Jelley - appears she was unmarried when she had Joseph - yet another name!!

1881 census
To find Joseph and his mother with Charles Poat type in
Marian Doody born 1846 Rudgwick Sussex that should get you to the right person!

Sorry Christina but what I meant was how did you first search when you did not know he was a Doody.
Jenny

Sorry Jenny misread what you wanted - complete accident really - some had put an alternative name (well 2 actually) on the Ancestry site so I did some checking. Have just found the marriage for Peter Doody and Mary Ann Jelley on Ancestry - it was 28th July 1873 Peter was a photographer and his father was also Peter (a tailor), Mary Ann a spinster and her fathers name was William but recorded as deceased.

Christina

Thank you again Christina. Final challenge. Can you find Mary Ann and Joseph on the 1871 census? I have been looking since four o'clock and I can't find her.

Jenny

nothing yet Jenny - I'll keep looking but probably tomorrow now! It's always worth trying wildcard names as it could easily have been mistranscribed. Take a look on the Familysearch site, you will find the baptism for Mary Ann Jelley (Rudgwick Sussex) and if you then type in parents names with surname and doubl;e click on batch number you will get all her siblings.
Will keep looking for you!
Christina

1851 Rudgwick Street
William Jelley 55 wid Farmer of 54 acres emp 12 men b Cranley Surrey
Mary Ann 5 granddaughter b Rudgwick
Sarah Holdern 59 wid Housekeeper b Bilingshurst
plus 2 farm labs

Parents of Mary Ann
William Jelley m Mary Ann Neale 1845 Jun Q Thakeham vol 7 page 655

Must say I'm a little suspicious of this family in 1871:
Name: Mary A Lewis
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Joseph P
Gender: Female
Where born: Rudgwick, Sussex, England
Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St John The Evangelist
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Tottenham Court
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 308
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph P Lewis 31
Mary A Lewis 25
Joseph W Lewis 2
Martha Burt 36
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 208; Folio: 114; Page: 39

Maureen

Thank you Gillian and Maureen. I agree that your 1871 census looks a very very likely candidate.