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Doreen

Doreen Report 16 Feb 2008 15:26

Can anyone help to put me on the right track.
I have been trying to trace my great grandmother, I have no date or place of birth.

Dee

Marilyn

Marilyn Report 16 Feb 2008 15:31

do you have a name for this lady??????????????
cant do much without a name can we. Please, it would help!

Doreen

Doreen Report 16 Feb 2008 15:43

thanks marilyn yes her name is Sarah Marshall, this is all that is on my grandfathers birth cert.

he was Thomas william Marshall born 11 nov 1884 at Page Bank,Stockley Willington County Durham. Mothers name Sarah Marshall, no fathers name or any age for her. I have tried quite a few sarahs from around 1861+but cant come up with anything and dont know where to go next
dee

K

K Report 16 Feb 2008 15:55

Have you found William in any census? - Is this him in 1901?

Name: Thomas W Marshall
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Adopted Son
Gender: Male
Where born: Paye Rark, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Collierley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Catchgate
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Doreen

Doreen Report 16 Feb 2008 16:00

yes, 1891 and 1901 but living with different family, called Hutchinson in 1891 censu he is down as grandson in 1901 as adopted son. the head of house was John Hutchinson, wife Isabella. and living in catchgate and pontop, co. durham

Doreen

Doreen Report 16 Feb 2008 16:01

yes K thats him
dee

K

K Report 16 Feb 2008 16:09

I see your problem - it doesn't help much!!

Kay

Doreen

Doreen Report 16 Feb 2008 16:13

would the parish where my grandfather was born hold any records. ie his baptism? or maybe sarahs if she came from the durham area
Dee

K

K Report 16 Feb 2008 16:20

If he was christened it could be in the Parish re was born in and it could be worth checking the records, but would it tell you more than his birth cert. Sarah could have gone home to give birth so could have been christened in the parish

It's interesting that he kept his name. I wonder whether the couple who adopted him were related

Doreen

Doreen Report 16 Feb 2008 16:26

It is interestig Kay I did think of john hutchinson having a brother after checking some of the hutchinsons. and found he did have a brother william but then couldnt find any marrage for him.

but thank you so much for that info and will look up the parish and check

many thanks
Dee

Doreen

Doreen Report 16 Feb 2008 16:29

Melanie. I will save this as source for my tree.
many thanks Dee

Doreen

Doreen Report 17 Feb 2008 17:48

may I use your knowledge again please.
my GG/Grandfather was born Jacob Henderson 1853 hull east yorkshire.
his mother was mary ann henderson 1827 hope,yorkshire and his dad was I think Thomas Henderson 1827 Dalton yorkscant find anything for Thomas either before or after 1851.can you help?

thanks Dee

K

K Report 17 Feb 2008 18:01

Hi Dee

Have you found Mary Ann and Jacob in 1861 and is Jacob's father from his birth cert?

Kay

Doreen

Doreen Report 17 Feb 2008 18:06

no Kay only 1851, which was Mary Ann1827,Thomas 1827, then 1871 found Mary Ann 44, jacob 19 esther 15 john W 9, but no thomas.
Dee

K

K Report 17 Feb 2008 18:16

I think this is the same family in 1851 and 1861 but no Jacob. Kirby Hill/Dalton are next door - I have a relative born there. I supose Jos could be Jacob but not born in Hull

1851

Thos Henderson 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Dalton

Civil Parish: Dalton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Richmond
Sub-registration district: Richmond
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Ann Henderson 24 b Hope
Thos Henderson 24



1861

Name: Thomas Henderson
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Kirby Hill, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Evenwood Barony
Ecclesiastical parish: Etherley
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Hamsterley
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Ester Henderson 5
Jos Henderson 9 b Sproatley Yorks
Mary A Henderson 25 b Barningham
Mary A Henderson 3
Thomas Henderson 33

K

K Report 17 Feb 2008 18:20

Ah - just seen your reply and Spoatley is just outside Hull so it looks like the right family in 1861 when compared with the 1871 detials

Doreen

Doreen Report 17 Feb 2008 18:28

was thomas still with the family in 1871 and would it help to look in 1841 for his parents
thanks Dee

K

K Report 17 Feb 2008 18:53

I can't see him in 1871 but have to go to cook tea now - will check tommorow - there are alternatives in 1841 but not with his parents. I did find the below on the IGI which could be useful and the 1901 Census

1901 - Inmate of Almhouses


Name: Thomas Henderson
Age: 74
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Gender: Male
Where born: Dalton, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Kirkby Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: Kirkby Ravensworth
Town: Kirkby Hill
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Richmond (Yorkshire)
Sub-registration district: Newsham
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 67
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Atkinson 76
Thomas Cowell 79
Elizabeth Croft 76
William Dobinson 84
John Gibbon 70
Charles Hall 82
Thomas Henderson 74
Mary Lee 82
William Leith 67
William Park 78
Margaret Siddal 68
Richard Summerbell 51
William B Swetnam 72
Bessie Warden 72
Thomas Wood 65




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THOS. HENDERSON Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 19 NOV 1826 Kirkby Ravensworth, Yorkshire, England
Parents:
Father: JACOB HENDERSON Family
Mother: ANN

Doreen

Doreen Report 17 Feb 2008 19:08

thats great Kay very many thanks for that

I did wonder if he and Mary split up and ddivoced, but maybe not.

many thanks
Dee

Doreen

Doreen Report 17 Feb 2008 20:18

Hi Melanie,
so the 1901 census for Thomas age 74 is not the same family
Dee