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Sophia McCue / Evans / Smith 1911 Help please

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Jim The Ferret

Jim The Ferret Report 2 May 2011 15:55

I have Sophia born c 1884. She married Thomas Evans and when he died, she married Charles Smith in 1909.
I can not find her in 1891 or 1901 without more info.
In 1911, I believe she is incorrectly transcribed as Selby Smith living in South Shields with husband, Charles, Susan aged 2 and Joseph 6 months.
Could somebody kindly check the original to see if it is her, and let me know the place of birth.

Many thanks

Jim

Flick

Flick Report 2 May 2011 16:23

The woman transcribed as SELBY is actually LILLY, and she has been married for 3 years

Birthplace Middlesbrough

Flick

Flick Report 2 May 2011 16:25

For INFO

Marriages Mar 1906 (>99%)
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Evans Thomas S. Shields 10a 953
McCUE Sophia S. Shields 10a 953

Flick

Flick Report 2 May 2011 16:26

Births Dec 1884 (>99%)
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McCue Sophia Middlesbro' 9d 586

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 2 May 2011 16:28

1891 census?
Name: Sophia McCue
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Daniel McCue
Mother's name: Emly McCue
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Linthorpe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls
Town: Middlesborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 47
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4011
Folio: 85
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel McCue 40 b Durham (can't read the actual place) occ Steelworks Labourer
Emly McCue 29 b Manchester Lancs
Sophia McCue 6

Flick

Flick Report 2 May 2011 16:30

You could have traced her by referring to her birth record............

1891

Name: Sophia McCue
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Daniel McCue
Mother's name: Emly McCue
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Linthorpe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls
Town: Middlesborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 47
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4011
Folio: 85
Page Number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel McCue 40
Emly McCue 29
Sophia McCue 6


LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 2 May 2011 16:32

1901 census?

Name: Sofia McCue
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Daniel McCue
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Middlesbrough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 20
Piece: 4578
Folio: 54
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel McCue 49 married occ Coalfurnessman
Alice McCue 18 dau
Sofia McCue 17 dau
Catherine McCue 7 dau
Sally McCue 5 dau

Children all born Middlesborough


LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 2 May 2011 16:36

Marriage to Thomas Evans?

Marriages Mar 1906
>>>Evans Thomas S. Shields 10a 953
Forrester Jane S. Shields 10a 953
>>>McCUE Sophia S. Shields 10a 953
NELLIST John S. Shields 10a 953

There is a death in Mar Qtr 1908 South Shields for Thomas Evans aged 28 which could be him; however, Evans, is quite a common name

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 2 May 2011 16:41

Jim, where did this 1909 marriage to Charles Smith take place? Any further info would be useful.

Jim The Ferret

Jim The Ferret Report 2 May 2011 16:41

Thanks for all the help.
I believe that Thomas Evans died Q1 1908 and Sophia the married Charles Smith.
Qtr 3 1909 South Shields
Charles Smith
Sophia Evans

Daughter is from first marriage.

If "Lilly" is not Sophia, where has Sophia gone?

Jim

Jim The Ferret

Jim The Ferret Report 2 May 2011 16:43

The strangest thing is this ---
I am doing tree for my wife's cousin.

He has grandfather Daniel McHugh.
If the above ones are right, his wife has great grandfather Daniel McCue.
(They are not the same person).

Jim

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 2 May 2011 16:48

Jim, do you have a copy of that 1909 certificate to make sure that it's definitely "your" Sophia?

What is the name and birth year of the daughter from the first marriage?

Flick

Flick Report 2 May 2011 17:05

Without the cert....no proof of who married whom

Marriages Sep 1909 (>99%)
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DANCE William S. Shields 10a 1335
EVANS Sophia S. Shields 10a 1335
SMITH Charles S. Shields 10a 1335
WARDLE Elizabeth S. Shields 10a 1335

Flick

Flick Report 2 May 2011 17:07

The way to ensure you have the correct line of research is to start from the present day and work backwards.............

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 2 May 2011 17:12

This is from South Tyneside Council's website (for South Shields):

Marriage search results for sophia evans

*
1909 - 1 record found
o
+ Sophia EVANS
+ Spouse: Charles SMITH
+ Register: C0008/11
+ Entry: 207
+ Date: 28/08/1909

EDIT - the Council website also has the marriage registered as Sophia McCue.

Jim The Ferret

Jim The Ferret Report 2 May 2011 17:12

The daughter is Susan. She had three children --- the first shows mmn as Evans and the other 2 as Smith. This makes sense if she married both Evans and Smith.

Jim

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 2 May 2011 17:15

Jim, if we can find any of the children in 1911 then Sophia may be with them.

What year was Susan born?

If the others were born before 1911 what is their names and birth years?

Re: the birth certificates. The maiden name is the name you were born with. So if she was Sophia McCue then that is the mother's maiden name that should be on the children's birth certificates. They may well also show her previous name of Evans.

Jim The Ferret

Jim The Ferret Report 2 May 2011 17:22

Susan was born 4 Jun 1908 and registered in qtr 3 in South Shields.
That would make her 2 at the 1911 census.

Jim

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 2 May 2011 17:23

Possible children from Smith marriage?


Births Sep 1915
Smith Emily J McCue S. Shields 10a 1738
Births Dec 1918
Smith Sophia McCue S.Shields 10a 1533
Births Sep 1920
Smith Catherine McCue S.Shields 10a 1959