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Hello all

I would like some help please of finding any member of this family after the 1861 census which is below.

Joseph Medley 54 Spinner Oldham
Hannah Medley 48 born Underwood Nottingham
Alice Medley 22 Oldham
Sally Medley 11 Oldham
William 8 Oldahm
Gravelana? ( Girl) 5 Oldham Cannot make it out.
Melvina 1 Oldham
Lavinia 11 months Oldham

I would also like help in finding the marriage of Joseph and Hannah maybe maiden name (Chadderton) between 1842 when Josephs first wife Betty died and 1851 census when Joseph and Hannah miss-transcribed as Hedley were living in Allen St Werneth, Oldham

Thank you

Shirley

Looks like Lavinia may have died which puts them in the Oldham area 1865

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Lavina Medley
Name: Lavina Medley
Year of Registration: 1865
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Oldham
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 411

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Sally Medley
Name: Sally Medley
Year of Registration: 1864
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Oldham
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 334

Thanks Claire

It looks like you may be correct about these two.

I just cannot find anything on any censuses though for the others.

Shirley

I can't see anything else either

Melvina could be Martha

Births Sep 1859 (>99%)
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Medley Martha? Oldham 8d 4_0


Andy

Shirley,

I had a look at the census above, to me it looks like the baby is 'Sevina' (not Lavinia).

Can't find an exact match for them on the 1871 census! There's a Hannah, correct age, but husband's name is John.

I thought it was a S name too, if you look at Sally a couple of rows up the first letters are the same

Hi all

Thanks for looking.

Yes I think you are right about it being Sevina.

John next door is Josephs son from his marriage to Betty Whitehead and Jacob is Johns brother my GGGrandfather.

I can find Jacob on other censuses but not Josephs family.

Any ideas?

Thank you

Shirley

Shirley,

Do you know if Joseph was still living in 1871?

There's this death, though it doesn't give an age or year of birth.

Name: Joseph Henry Medley
Year of Registration: 1864
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Oldham
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 334 (click to see others on page)

interesting results from the lancashirebmd site (oldham seem to be unusual in that they recorded mothers maiden name) Maybe Joseph did not actual marry the mother(s) of his children!
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1850
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
MEDLEY Sally Oldham Below Town Oldham CHAMBERS
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1856
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
MEDLEY Amanda Oldham Below Town Oldham WIDDALL OBT/41/297



Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1859
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
MEDLEY Malina Oldham Below Town Oldham WIDDALL OBT/49/253



Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1860
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
MEDLEY Lavina Oldham Below Town Oldham CHADDERTON OBT/52

there was a Jacob Henry medley born in 1863 in Oldham so probably not the Joseph death in 1864

Hi susan

No I don't know. His name was just Joseph I believe.

If I could find his two marriages it would help.

1st to Betty Whitehead. Oldest child Jenny Medley 1831 Oldham on 1841 census.


Betty dies in 1842 in childbirth.

On 1851 Joseph is married to Hannah Name could be (Chadderton) on Lancs BDM I have found a Lavina reg 1860 with mothers maiden name Chadderton. but, we have now decided it's not Lavina but Sevina. I cannot find her either.



Problem is there are not many Medley surnames in Oldham on 1841 I cannot be sure he really originated from there.

Shirley

Snap Lancashire Ann

Thanks for that I had seen it and wandered if it was mine.

Shirley

just found on the igi that Amanda & Malina were children of John & Martha.

Jenny is on IGI as Christened 5 Oct 1828

Yes Ann

John was Josephs son from marriage to Betty Whitehead and living next door to him on the 1861 in Timber St Werneth

I also forgot to mention earlier Joseph and Hannah on the 1851 were down as Hedley and not Medley.

Shirley

Yes I saw that Ann but, it does not have a source number on it so I don't know where she was christened.

Shirley,

If you look at "familysearch.org" you will get the source number (it's Oldham).

Hi Susan

I saw it was Oldham but there are so many churches in Oldham I have no idea where to look.

On familysearch.org if it has a source number at the bottom of the page and you click on it. it sometimes tells you where the records are kept.

I will make enquiries at Oldham though.

Thank you for looking for me.

Shirley