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Lisa

Lisa Report 15 Dec 2010 22:19

I am trying to find charles albert miller approx birth 1867. Location in 1911 Poplar, Occupation Shipwright. The 1911 and 1901 census state 2 different birth locations 1 states Poplar London, the other states Gravesend/Kent/London. Charles's wife is katie/kate. Any help regarding birth marriage and death records including siblings etc much appreciated. Thanks in advance

patchem

patchem Report 15 Dec 2010 22:21

How long has he been married in 1911?
Thanks

patchem

patchem Report 15 Dec 2010 22:25

Marriages Sep 1891
Bevan Kate Amelia Fulham 1a 463
Miller Charles Albert Fulham 1a 463
This will give his Father's name.

Lisa

Lisa Report 15 Dec 2010 22:26

he was married 20 years according to 1911 census many thanks

Mike *

Mike * Report 15 Dec 2010 22:27

Could this be them ?


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Marriages Sep 1891

Bevan Kate Amelia Fulham 1a 463
Miller Charles Albert Fulham 1a 463

Pam

Pam Report 15 Dec 2010 22:27

England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Kate Amelia Bevan Name: Kate Amelia Bevan
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Spouse Name: Charles Albert Miller
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 08 Jul 1891
Parish: St Dionis, Parsons Green
County: London
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Father Name: George Bevan
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Miller

Address for Charles : 3 Argyle Terrace
and for Kate 12 Epple Road

Witnesses were Charles Gooderson and Minnie Maud Miller

Lisa

Lisa Report 15 Dec 2010 22:30

Yes Bevan is his wife is there any birth location for charles? thank you once again

Pam

Pam Report 15 Dec 2010 22:31

The Banns appear to have been called a year before the marriage:

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Kate Amelia Bevan Name: Kate Amelia Bevan
Spouse Name: Charles Albert Miller
Record Type: Banns
Marriage Bann Date: 21 Jun 1890
Parish: St Dionis, Parsons Green
County: London
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham

On the Banns certificate are the addresses for both Kate and Charles but unreadable. In the margin it also says "to be married 21st June after service".

Mike *

Mike * Report 15 Dec 2010 22:32

No births for Charles A in 1867.
3 in 1866


Births Dec 1866 ---------------------------------------

Miller Charles A - Hollingbourn 2a 583
Miller Charles A - Stepney 1c 510
Miller Charles A A - Pancras 1b 155


Is the age on his marriage cert consistent with those on the censuses ?

Lisa

Lisa Report 15 Dec 2010 22:34

Thank you for all your help ive spent all week looking but had no luck until now thank you

Lisa

Lisa Report 15 Dec 2010 22:40

I dont have the marriage cert but will be able to buy one and search from there many thanks

Flick

Flick Report 15 Dec 2010 22:45

HIs birth may not have been registered. Until 1875, there were no penalties for not registering births.................

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 15 Dec 2010 22:45

Age is given as 24 for them both.
There is writing at side of Banns image, looks like they were to be married after service of last bann calling?...

Chris :)

(edits to say, just seen Pat's posting above)

Flick

Flick Report 15 Dec 2010 22:49

Only one Charles Miller on 1871 census with details matching your info

Name: Charles Miller
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Son
Father's name: Thomas Miller
Mother's name: Anne M Miller
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England
Civil Parish: Poplar All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 83
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Miller 36 born SUNDERLAND.Occ: Shipwright*********
Anne M Miller 29 born LEEDS
Charles Miller 4
William Miller 2
Charles Laycock 23
George Hoy 26
Marion Hoy 27
Thomas Hoy 5

Pam

Pam Report 15 Dec 2010 22:49

I have posted the information from the Banns and Marriage Certificates above. The last Banns were called 21 June 1890 and the marriage took place 8th July 1891.

The Banns Certificate does not have a year at the top. It just says 18___
so it is possible that it is 1891.

Flick

Flick Report 15 Dec 2010 22:50

I'll leave you to look for them in 1881............there may have been more children by then

Mike *

Mike * Report 15 Dec 2010 22:52

same family in 1881



Thomas MILLER Head M Male 45 Sunderland, Durham, England Shipwright
Anna M. MILLER Wife M Female 36 Leeds, York, England
Charles A. MILLER Son Male 15 Limehouse, Middlesex, England Drapers Assist
William G. MILLER Son Male 13 Limehouse, Middlesex, England Scholar
Clarence J. MILLER Son Male 6 Limehouse, Middlesex, England Scholar
Minnie M. MILLER Dau Female 2 Limehouse, Middlesex, England
James MORRICE Boarder U Male 27 Scotland Marine Engine Fitter
John W. WHITLEY Boarder U Male 41 Dewsbury, York, England Laborer In Tin Works


Dwelling 41 Farrance St
Census Place London, Middlesex, England

Mike *

Mike * Report 15 Dec 2010 22:55

*
Limehouse would indicate the birth registered in Stepney Dec Q 1866

Lisa

Lisa Report 15 Dec 2010 23:11

Ur all marvelous I have many more leads now thanx & merry xmas to u all x

Mike *

Mike * Report 15 Dec 2010 23:22

Just a possible for parents marriage


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Marriages Jun 1861 ----------------------------------

Cousins Harriet Mile End 1c 950
Giles John Morgan Mile End 1c 950
***********Luccock Ann Maria Mile End 1c 950
************Miller Thomas Mile End 1c 950