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Hello everyone,
I am hoping someone can find for me PLEASE a ELIZA ANN ROOKE. Eliza was the daughter of Alexander Huddy Rooke and Frances Ann Stephens. She was born 7-7-1853 Probus Cornwall. In the 1871 census she was with her sister Gertrude at St Clements Cornwall after the death of her parents in 1869. In the 1881 census she was still with her sister Gertrude (Gertrude was married by this time to Richard Hooper) at Penzance.
I have been unable to locate her after the 1881 census.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thank You. Pat.

??? POssible marriage??


Marriages Dec 1885 (>99%)

Bennett James Henry H Bristol 6a 168
Drake Elizabeth Bristol 6a 168
FIELD Charles Churchill Bristol 6a 168
Rooke Eliza Ann Bristol 6a 168



I'll see if I can find her on a census to see who she married


Found this on www.freebmd.org,uk ..... you should always check on there for all bmds. It's a free site, currently has the entries from July 1 1837 to about 1920 or 1925, hopefully will soon be up to 1983 as volunteers continue inputting the information.



sylvia

and here we are

she married James Bennett

1891 Census

Name: Eliza A Bennett
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James H H
Gender: Female
Where born: Probus, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: East Dulwich
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub registration district: Camberwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza A Bennett 37
Ethel L Bennett 2
Florence M Bennett 3
James H H Bennett 34 b.ca 1857, Padstow, Cornwall, Mantle Manufacturer
Maria L Bennett 28 b.ca 1863, Padstoe, Sister, Living on Own Means

Address:- 21 Melford Rd, Camberwell, London

Hi Sylvia,
Thank you very much for finding her for me. I did have a look at the BDMs but there were so many Elizas at different times I didn't know which one was her. Also I had thought that she may have came to Aussie with her sisters and brother as 4 of them came out together.
Thanks again. It is very much appreciated.
Pat.

Hi Sylvia,
Do you have access to 1901 census. If you do would you mind having a look to see if Eliza had any more children.... Thanks.
Pat.

Hi Pat

here you are

1901 Census

Name: Eliza A Bennett
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James H H
Gender: Female
Where born: Conm, Probus

Civil Parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Dulwich
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Camberwell
Sub registration district: Dulwich
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 187
Household Members: Name Age
Alan H Bennett 6 b.ca 1895, Lambeth, Surrey
Eliza A Bennett 45
Ethel L Bennett 12 b.ca 1889, Dulwich, Surrey
Florence M Bennett 14 b.ca 1887, Dulwich
James H H Bennett 44 b.ca 1857, Padstow, Cornwall, Mantle Manufacturer, on own account
Jennie Byles 29 Housemaid
Florence M Edwards 15 b.ca 1886, Ross, Goucestershire, Visitor, Telegraphist
James Toulmin 26 Boarder, Elecetrical Engineer.

Address:- 15A Warmington Rd, Dulwich, Camberwell, London



sylvia

These could be the birth registrations for the children:-

Births Mar 1887 (>99%)

Bennett Florence Margaret Camberwell 1d 827


Births Sep 1888 (>99%)

BENNETT Ethel Louise Camberwell 1d 803


Births Dec 1894 (>99%)

Bennett Alan Herbert Lambeth 1d 532




sylvia

and probably James Bennett's birth registration .. St Columb is the registration centre for Padstow.

Births Mar 1856 (>99%)

Bennett James Henry Hawkin St Columb 5c 124


sylvia

James Bennet in 1871 with his mother

1871 Census

Name: James Bennett
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Maria
Gender: Male
Where born: Padstow, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Padstow
Town: Padstow
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Registration district: St Columb
Sub registration district: Padstow
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 197
Household Members: Name Age
James Bennett 15
John Bennett 19
Maria Bennett 47 b.ca 1824, Padstow, Master Mariner's Wife
Maria Bennett 8 b.ca 1863, Padstow
Sarah Bennett 1


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and 1861

Name: James Henry Bennett
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Maria
Gender: Male
Where born: Padstow, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Padstow
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Registration district: St Columb
Sub registration district: Padstow
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 157
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Bennett 6
George Bennett 36 b.ca 1825, Padstow, Master Mariner
George Bennett 15
James Henry Bennett 5
John Bennett Bennett 9
Maria Bennett 34 b.ca 1827, Padstow
Polly Hewken Bennett 4 <<<<Hawkin on image
Richard Bennett 12
Sarah Hawken 28 b.ca 1833, Padstow, Married, Sister, Dress Maker

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and in 1881, working in London

Name: James H. H. Bennett
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Padston, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Paddington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 63 & 59 Westbowrne Grove

Occupation: Drapers Assistant

Registration district: Kensington
Sub registration district: St John Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 27a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frances Mary Applegate 30
Harry Badcock 22
Mary Ellen Banham 32
Emily Charlotte Beckaron 23
James H. H. Bennett 25
Ann Bond 21
Florence Agnes Brown 17
Arthur Browse 20
Walter Butler 23
Arthur Chandler 26
Emma Clarke 19
Mary Ann Cornasky 18
Louisa Maria Essimloton 22
Frederick Fairchild 16
Selina Thomason Jolliffs 25
Eliza Jones 27
John Morgan 28
Vincent Henry Packham 15
Amelia Palmer 23
Frederick Parker 15
Ellis Peake 21
John Pullar 23
Fredk. Augustus Rundle 20
Lucy Rutland 22
Jan. Mary Savage 18
Mary Searle 22
Toni Edward Smiggs 21
Charles Thos. W. Smith 25
Emily Frances Stone 23
Arthur Watkins 19
Flora Gertrude Woods 19


ALL are servants, draper's assistant!!



sylvia

Hi Sylvia,
Thank you very much for the info you have given me. I do appreciate it very much. If there is anything I can look up for you at any time just message me. I am in Australia.
Regards Pat.

Maria in 1851

Name: Maria Bennett
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Padstow, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Great Yarmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas
Town: Great Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Registration district: Yarmouth
Sub registration district: Yarmouth Southern
ED, institution, or vessel: 1g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
George Bennett 4
Maria Bennett 28 Mariner's Wife
Richard Bennett 2

Address:- Victoria Road, Great Yarmouth

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I can't pick out a marriage for George and Maria though.


sylvia

Pat

You are very welcome!

whereabouts are you in Australia?

We spent a year in Melbourne in the mid-70s, and I have modern-day rellies (emigrated in the 60s) all over the place. We were down there last in Seotember/October 2006 .. Perth to Adelaide to Darwin to Brisbane to Sydney, with sidetracks all over the place!!!

I daren't even think about the ones who went down there in the 1850s! Fortunately, there has been a One Name Study done on that family, so I haven't thought about duplicating their research.


I'm in Vancouver, on the West Coast of Canada.


sylvia

Hi Sylvia,
I think I found the marriage for George and Maria. I looked at FREEBDM and found a George Bennett and Maria Hawken married Mar 1843 at St Columbo. I had the clue James Bennetts third name was Hawkin (Hawken) so I guess thats the one. (I HOPE).
I live in a small regional town Gatton about just over an hours drive from Brisbane QLD. I hear Canada is a lovely place. Plenty of rain. I wish we had it here. Everything is so dry.
I enjoy digging for family. I get excited when I find a new connection especially when they come to Aussie and have children. I have several that are hard to track as they are born after the records stop. But I still keep searching for them.
I have found that a lot of rellys travelled great distances from one state to another. I even found a relly in WA that had originally came from the Sunshine Coast in QLD. He was sent over there for a better education concequently he was married there and had children and died there. What a shock that was. I would have thought that they would have all been in the same area as one another. But families drift apart. Thanks again for all that info. You are a STAR. Your rellys in the 1850s where did they settle?
Regards Pat.

Hi Pat

That marriage sounds a real possibility. I too thought Hawken might be a clue to Maria's maiden name. I'll see if I can find anything on her ..... and if the family includes a sister Sarah!!!!

Most of my 1850s people seem to end up in SA. It was 2 families, brother & sister, who were siblings of my gggrandfather. An uncle had also emigrated in the 1840s.

There is a suggestion that a son-in-law ended up a guard on the gate at Broken Hill .. that is where there was a big riot isn't it?

BUT ... you talk about movement ........ some of the elders and their children (some born in the UK and some in SA) then got on a Mormon ship that was going to California, with the intention to proselytize on the goldfields there.

Fortunately, as I said, there has been a One Name Study group working on the problem for years, and I'm just sitting here reaping the benefit of all their work. One descendent does live only about 100 or 150 miles away from me in Washington State though ...... how weird is that?!


Mind you, the One Name Study group got themselves all messed up on recent members of the family. I got hold of a cd they produced about 1999 on the family tree. Imagine my shock to discover that my father was nowhere to be found ..... but my brother was now my father!!! That took me literally months to work out how to sort out ............ the guy running the One Name group wouldn't answer my emails. I have discovered why (probably anyway) ....... and he is my second cousin!

It comes down to dirty deeds in the genealogy world, and the fact that I think he thinks I may have the evidence to prove that he has done the dirty on his own brother by stealing all the work that had been done previously! What I do have are some letters that his brother sent to my brother back in the 1980s, and that were then forwarded onto me.

Fortunately (again) the descendent in Washington is willing and able to make the corrections on future "editions" ..... but of course that does nothing to solve the problem for people who get hold of that original cd.


anyway, off to see if I can find anyhting on the Hawken family for you.


sylvia

well, that didn't take long!!

she just came flying out at me.

1841 Census

Name: Maria Hawken
Age: above 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Female
Where born: Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Padstow
Hundred: Pyder
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Registration district: St Columb Major
Sub registration district: Padstow
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Hawken 13 b.ca 1828, Cornwall
Maria Hawken above 15
Nancy Hawken above 50 b.ca 1791, Cornwall
Richard Hawken above 50 b.ca 1791, Cornwall, Ag Lab
Sarah Hawken 9 b.ca 1832, Cornwall

Address:- Berry Lane, Padstow


sylvia

Pat,

If you go to www.familysearch.org ........... the Mormon site .. lcick on Advanced Search, then scroll down to Advanced Search

Enter Richard Hawken in father's names
Nancy in mothers
1830 +/- 20 years
British Isles, England, Cornwall

you will get a listing of children born in Cornwall to parents with those names.

There are several of them, but the following are down as born in Padstow.


The BIG problem .. is that they re cords that have all been submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS church, and there is documentation to back up the claims.

I suggest that you take this information as possible, don't enter it in your tree .......... but see if there is anyone living in or near Padstow who could check in the parish records.

Ann Hawken - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 SEP 1814 Padstow, Cornwall, England

4. Mary Hawken - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 MAY 1816 Padstow, Cornwall, England

5. Richard Hawken - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 01 MAR 1819 Padstow, Cornwall, England

6. Maria Hawken - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 09 OCT 1824 Padstow, Cornwall, England

7. James Henry Hawken - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 27 OCT 1828 Padstow, Cornwall, England

8. Sarah Hawken - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 05 MAR 1832 Padstow, Cornwall, England

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I went to look at a nother site ... I'll give you the web site in a minute ......... that carries only extracted records for the International Genealogical Index ........ and found this. I wonder if this is Nancy Hawken's christening???????


NANCY HAWKEN Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 26 APR 1795 Padstow, Cornwall, England

Death:
Burial:

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Parents:
Father: JAS. HAWKEN Family
Mother: ANN

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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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This site is:-

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htm


It is a free site


sylvia

Hi Sylvia,
Thanks heaps for this. I didn't expect anyone to so much for me. I find that some people that want to be found just bounce out at you where others just seem to keep hiding.
Its lucky that you have a one name study being done but not so good when one takes anothers work considering how long it takes to get all this info. Yes there were riots at Broken Hill. SA records are hard to access as they want $ for info. Luckily none of mine (that I know of) went to SA.
I've just unravelled one of my problems this morning. I've been told by a family member that this person was born in England. Not soo he was born in NSW so I have been barking up the wrong tree for ages.It happened to be on my partners side of things. Wish they were as easy to find as you have found mine. Talk about rellys living so close. My second cousin and my first cousin only live 3 streets away from one another and didn't even know it. Found my 2nd cousin on this site .
Cheers. Pat.