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I am looking for Percy Shacklady, born around 1860, in London. Any info would be gratefully received. Many thanks Sylvia

Nothing showing on FreeBMD.

What's the source of your info?

Rose

Can you give some more info on how you got to him as i can't see a birth

Sylvia,

You seem to be the only person on GR who has this name listed

Have checked the census on Findmypast from 1861 to 1901 and not getting any matches for this name.

Ancestry is not working at the moment.

No matches for births or marriages on IGI either

GB

I always thought of Arthur Norton as my grand father, but now it turns out that my grandfather is this Percy. This is from my mothers birth certificate. Florence Violet Shacklady. 13.9.1901. Her mother Florence Louisa, I thought was a Shacklady was in fact a Ritchie. From Saral Ritchie, Landlady of the Seven Stars pub in London. Complicated!!!!!! Sylvia

RE Percy Shacklady...I have looked on the information I have on my family and cannot find a Percy or anyone with a second initial P. Could this be a nickname like some people are known by.? My father was always called Mac, nobody knew his real name ... Philip. Sylvia

Im a bit confused by your post

Are you saying your Nans maiden name is Richie

Marriages Jun 1904
Norton Arthur Islington 1b 520
Shacklady Florence Louise Islington 1b 520

Rose

Marriages Jun 1904 (>99%)
Norton Arthur Islington 1b 520
Shacklady Florence Louise Islington 1b 520
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Im wondering if Percy was made up

Maybe Arthur is your Mums dad and they married after she was born
My Nans parents did the same

I also can't see an Shacklady/ Richie marriage

Marriages Jun 1904 (>99%)

Fuller Harry Islington 1b 520
<<Norton Arthur Islington 1b 520
Page Rosina Alphonsine Islington 1b 520
<<Shacklady Florence Louise Islington 1b 520

Do you have this marriage cert?

Christine

Florence was born in Bethnal Green c1882 according to the 1901 census.

That corresonds to this birth:

Births Sep 1881
Shacklady Florence Bethnal Green 1c 198

What makes you think her maiden name was Ritchie and what does this mean: "From Saral Ritchie, Landlady of the Seven Stars pub in London."?

Rose

Yes that is them. My mother Florence Violet born 1901, Florence Louisa [my grandmother] and Arthur Norton married 1904. F.L.'s mother was Sarah Ritchie who later married William Shacklady. On my mothers B.C. .... F.V. is called 'Shacklady formerly Ritchie' . F.V.'s father is Percy Shacklady on the B.C. Complicated. I have searched as far as I can, no Percy's. Is it possible to put any old name on a B.C. If so why not Smith or Jones? Or are we keeping it in the family! Sylvia

Sarah Ritchie was a publican and she had the Seven stars pub [in MIle End I think]. Also William Shacklady had a pub in London. Many thanks to all who replied Sylvia

William and Sarah were married before Florence was born though:

Marriages Dec 1880
RITCHEY Sarah Mile End 1c 1029
Shacklady William Mile End 1c 1029

Rose

1881 Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Wm. SHACKLADY Head M Male 19 B Green, Middlesex, England Contractor
Sarah SHACKLADY Wife M Female 19 B Green, Middlesex, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 3 Three Colt Lane
Census Place London, Middlesex, England


Rose

I can only assume FL was pretending she was married when she registered the birth. Perhaps FV's father's forename was actually Percy but I doubt he was a Shacklady.

Rose

You said

" On my mothers B.C. .... F.V. is called 'Shacklady formerly Ritchie' . F.V.'s father is Percy Shacklady on the B.C. Complicated. I have searched as far as I can, no Percy's. Is it possible to put any old name on a B.C."

It appears that Florence Louisa made it appear she was married when she registered her daughters birth giving the maiden name of Richie which was her mothers maiden name.

Do you have her marriage cert to Arthur Norton?

Christine

No I do not have any more certificates but I intend to send for them. Mant thanks to all who have tried to help me, but I really have got to go! Love Sylvia.... Closing down now.

There's a Percy Edwards a few doors down from Florence in 1901 and he's also 19. Something to think about.

Rose

Thankyou Rose. I have looked at Percy and it seems likely. But the guy on Mum's B.C. is a master butcher and Percy is some sort of Labourer. I am wondering if the B.C. can be believed. Can people put down things that are not true. I suppose so, who is going to check? But thankyou for looking. Sorry it has taken a while to get back to you. Sylvia