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I have a William Shuker who married Elizabeth Wedge in 1903 he also signed my gr uncle's marriage certificate in 1903 when he married Ellen Wedge anyone got info that might help as tried to look on Ancestry for 1881 cencus to see if there was any round about the area but no names came up they married in Shropshire

So who was Ellen Wedge to William Shuker? His sister in law?

I dont really understand as there are a number of chaps with that name in Shropshire? If he were a witness at this wedding in 1903 it may well be he was not on the 1881 census - he may have been too young then? Though I can see some born before 1881 in shrops. Who was the other witness and where exactly did they marry?

He was Ellen's sister in law he married her sister Elizabeth July August Sept quarter and in 1903 Ellen married Oct 1903 to Joseph Cooper Alice Wedge was the other witness

Where did they marry?

Is this it - Wellington, Shropshire?

Marriages Sep 1903 (>99%)
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SHUKER William Wellington, Sh 6a 1644

Yes that is it I was hoping some one would recognise these names and may be related

They seem a strange family on the 1901 there is an Elizabeth Price who someone has given a correction to as Elizabeth Wedge, living in a pub in Wellington, supposedly the daughter of the landlord but possibly his stepdaughter and really a Wedge???

Anyway, here is the Shuker/Wedge connection by the looks of it: Alice is working as a servant and in the same household is a Walter Shuker and his wife farmers, her her employers - at a wild guess, possiblyWilliams parents??

1901
: Alice Wedge
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Rodington, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Sherriff Hales
Ecclesiastical parish: Sherriff Hales
Town: Sherriff Hales
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Shifnal
Sub-registration district: Shifnal
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 105
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Berch 34
David Calder 17
Annie Edge 15
John Evans 56
Annie Shuker 40
Walter J Shuker 41
Alice Wedge 14


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Thank you for the info

Hmm,. well may be not parents but obviously related as no William here with them in 1891:

ame: Walter John Shuker
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Eaton Under Haywood, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Rodington
Ecclesiastical parish: Rodington
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wellington
Sub-registration district: Ercall Magna
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edith Clay 23
John Evans 43
Alice Wilding Hide 13
Mary E Hide 16
Thomas Maddox 22
Alice Shuker 11
Annie Shuker 30
Elizabeth Shuker 48
John Shuker 8
Robert Shuker 12
Walter John Shuker 31
John Turner 42
Lizzie Wedge 13
George Wellings 11
Margaret Wilding 28

Ah, thats more like it - looks like a William Shuker is likely the brother of Walter, 10 years younger than him: In 1881 just over the border in Wales:?

Name: Walter J. Shuker
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Anne
Gender: Male
Where born: Eaton Under Heywood, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Churchstoke
County/Island: Montgomeryshire
Country: Wales

Street address: Pentre Farm
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Farmers Son

Registration district: Forden
Sub-registration district: Montgomery
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Jones 21
Richard Lewis 37
Edward Morris 17
Martha Owen 25
Alice F. Shuker 14
Anne Shuker 54
John Shuker 46
Walter J. Shuker 21
>>>>>>>>>William E. Shuker 11
Pryce Williams 17

Name: William E. Shuker
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Anne
Gender: Male
Where born: Chirbury, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Churchstoke
County/Island: Montgomeryshire
Country: Wales

Street address: Pentre Farm
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Farmers Son

Registration district: Forden
Sub-registration district: Montgomery
ED, institution, or vessel: 10

PROBLEM IS - we have this chap too

Name: William Shuker
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Shifnal, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Shifnal
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address: High St
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Shifnal
Sub-registration district: Shifnal
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Shuker 56
Richd. Shuker 15
Samuel Shuker 59
William Shuker 11

Thank you so much for the info

Ah but the Shifnal William Shuker is a school master already married to an Elizabeth in 1901!

Name: William Shuker
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Shifnal, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: St Chad
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Atcham
Sub-registration district: St Chad
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 154
Household Members: Name Age
Allan A Shuker 5
Elizabeth Shuker 38
William Shuker 31

So it looks like they are very very likely related but that your guy is the bro of the Walter Shuker, farmer employing the younger sister

Gawd, dont thank me - but do you see why I was confused you couldnt find a William Shuker COS, here is another possible candidate - LOL!!

1901 - this one is a bricklayer

Name: William Shuker
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Market Drayton, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Atcham
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 75
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Franks 20
Edward Franks 18
Jane Franks 57
Martha Shuker 25
William Shuker 28



SO, far from being no possible William Shukers you have now at least 3 of them. You need to get the marriage certificate to get his occupation - this may well be the chap as I have now found Walters bro married in 1901 to a Fanny!!
Name: William E Shuker
Age in 1901: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Fanny
Gender: Male
Where born: Chirbury, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Church Stoke
Ecclesiastical parish: Church Stoke
County/Island: Montgomeryshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Forden
Sub-registration district: Montgomery
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Bowen 16
Margaret Hughes 16
Ada M James 12
William James 37
John Morris 20
Fanny Shuker 30
Gladys M Shuker 4
Hilda M Shuker 2
Marion M Shuker 5
Walter J Shuker 1
William E Shuker 31

Thank you for all the info I just wondered though if his wife died before he 1903 couldn't he marry again but the one that has Alice Wedge working for them there William could have met her he doesn't need to use middle name for marriage certificate when he is only a witness

So to sum up, there are quite a number of them in Shropshire who could easily be the bloke you are searching for! If you really want to know which one he is then you should buy that marriage cert to Elizabeth to check for his occupation and for his fathers name and occupation first. Far from being rare, there are dozens of them in the area!!

Well yes, I mean my guess would be that he must somehow be related to Walter in order for Alices sister to have met him so my money would have been on that guy but now Ive seen there are obviously a number of possibles Id want to verify which one with the certificate.

If you get the cert let us know the details of his occupation and fathers name and we can then find the right one for certain.

Hodnet Market Drayton was where my uncle Joseph came from and he married Ellen so maybe he introduced them
Thank you for all this info I think I may need certificate to check this one out

No deaths showing up for Fanny Shuker 1901-1903 on freebmd

I will let you know what I find and thanks again

They are obviously all intermingled, same area, same name, Alice Wedge working for them - LOL, youd think it would be easy with a name like that wouldnt you.

Yes, best bet is the marriage cert and as you say, may well be the bricklayer chap. But if I were you Id have to trace all this Shuker lot just to see how they are all connected.

Good luck.

Cheers Heather