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I have an Irvin Thickpenny - among others - in my family tree, born 1880 and am desperately seeking info on his wife. I f anybody has any info on this or any other Thickpenny relative, it will be most appreciated

Could this be his marriage ?

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1902 (>99%)
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Atkins Florence Harriett Luton 3b 712
Clark Florence Augusta Luton 3b 712
Matthews Henry Charles Luton 3b 712
Thickpenny Irvin Hind Luton 3b 712

Thank you very much for this

who are the other two names?

just for reference - 1881

Joseph THICKPENNY Head M Male 28 Newport Pagnell, Buckingham, England Box And Case Maker
Namoi THICKPENNY Wife M Female 30 Lilley, Hertford, England House Duties
Irvin D. THICKPENNY Son Male 1 Luton, Bedford, England
Frederick DAY Half Brother U Male 18 Luton, Bedford, England Hat And Bont Packer
William THICKPENNY Brother U Male 26 Newport Pagnell, Buckingham, England Iron Works Labourer Unemployed


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Source Information:
Dwelling 1 Brunswick St
Census Place Luton, Bedford, England
Family History Library Film 1341394
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1650 / 47
Page Number 32

You wouls have thought they couldnt mess with a name like this !

1891 England Census
about Irvin Shickpenny
Name: Irvin Shickpenny
[Irvin Thickpenny]
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Naomi
Gender: Male
Where born: Luton, Bedfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Luton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Luton
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Luton
Sub registration district: Luton
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Shickpenny 38
Naomi Shickpenny 41
Irvin Shickpenny 11
Arthur Cooper 21

This might be a child ?

Name: Reginald Irvin W Thickpenny
Birth: abt 1904
Death: Sep 1908 - Luton, Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire

Thank you all...interesting about the new spelling (lol!)

Also...where can i get more info on the birth/death of Irvin W?

Thanks again

Birth for

Name: Irvin Hind Thickpenny
Year of Registration: 1879
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Luton
County: Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 440 (click to

Birth for

Name: Reginald Irvin W Thickpenny
Year of Registration: 1904
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Luton
County: Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 388 (click


Apparently the name started as Fitzpen Phippen and got mangled with time !

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Wow...thank you so much

Surname: Thickpenny
This is a very unusual English surname. Recorded as Thickpenny, Thickpeny, Thickpenney, and probably others, its origin has defied researchers for over four hundred years. The famous Victorian etymologist Canon Charles Bardsley writing in the year 1880, confessed that he could not find a satisfactory explanation, and a hundred and twenty years on, and with all the resources of modern research, the position has not greatly changed. The surname is reasonably well recorded in the surviving church registers of the city of London from at least Elizabethan times, but they do not provide any clues as to how the name came about. The first known recording of the surname is believed to be that of the Rev. Leonard Thickpenny, a minister of Enfield in Middlesex, probably St Andrews. In the year 1590 it is said, he was buried secretly at night at St Peters Cornhill, in a 'coffen' with an opening flap! The secrecy of this burial only adds to the romance of the surname. Our research suggests that the name is almost certainly a transposition or fusing of either another surname, as 1590 is several centuriues after the intial creation of surnames, or of a place name such as Thicket Priory near York. However this is pure conjecture, as is often the case with surnames with no remotely obvious meaning or origin.

The associated coat of arms for this name THICKPENNY are recorded in Sir Bernard Burkes General Armory. Ulster King of Arms in 1884. The name is of obscure origin, and there appears to be no satisfactory solution of this surname. There is a record of Leonard THICKPENNY, in 1590, minister of Enfield 'who was brought from the Kinges Bench in a coffin with a flap to open, with a writing one it in verse laid at Ledenhall gate by night' at St. Peter, Cornhill, London. Hereditary surnames were originally imported from France into England during the Norman Conquest of 1066. In the two centuries or so after the Conquest surnames were acquired by most families of major landholders, and many landed families of lesser importance. There appears to have been a constant trickle of migration into Britain between about the years 1200 and 150O, mostly from France and the Low Countries, with a small number of migrants from Scandinavia, Germany, Italy and the Iberian peninsular, and occasional individuals from further afield. During this period groups of aliens settled in this country as for example, the Germans who from the late 15th century onwards settled in Cumbria to work the metal mines. Immigration during this time had only a small effect on the body of surnames used in Britain. In many cases, the surnames of immigrants were thoroughly Anglicised. The late sixteenth century saw the arrival, mostly in London and the south-coast ports of large numbers of people fleeing from the war regions of France. A later instance of the name includes Christopher Wass and Margaret THICKPENNY, who were married at St. George's Chapel, Mayfair, London in the year 1748. In the Middle Ages the Herald (old French herault) was an officer whose duty it was to proclaim war or peace, carry challenges to battle and messages between sovereigns; nowadays war or peace is still proclaimed by the heralds, but their chief duty as court functionaries is to superintend state ceremonies, such as coronations, installations, and to grant arms. Edward III (1327-1377) appointed two heraldic kings-at-arms for south and north, England in 1340. The English College of Heralds was incorporated by Richard III in 1483-84. The lion depicted in the arms is the noblest of all wild beasts which is made to be the emblem of strength and valour, and is on that account the most frequently borne in Coat-Armour.

great info

thanks anne, much appreciated

Big thank you to Lyndsey and Anne

you've both been a massive help

thanks Adam - much appreciated

Ann X