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EvieBeavie
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9 Mar 2009 00:32 |
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Sorry, Sue, I just don't think there's much more to say!
You're looking for someone with a not uncommon name (William Fitzpatrick) born in Ireland before 1800 and very probably died in Ireland. There just quite simply appears to be nothing available on line that is going to provide the info you want, and nobody here at GR who has access to anywhere it could be found.
The only thing I can think of is to retain a genealogist who has access to original records in Co. Wicklow and can search for the William Fitzpatrick + Honora Fleming marriage, the baptism of Daniel and any other children, and the births of William & Honora. The info just is not going to be found by posting questions at a discussion board populated by amateurs, almost none of whom have any knowledge of Irish records, let alone access to records before and just after 1800!
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funnyface
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6 Mar 2009 09:18 |
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hi evie no not that i know of im guessing that he could have beena only child.oh there is a james fitzpatrick who happens to come from the very same place that william came from.i was wondering if maybe that could be his brother do you think gee i just do not know .i have been looking for that long im just lost .if i could just get a slight hint on william or honora id be happy thanks evie a heap sue
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EvieBeavie
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6 Mar 2009 05:26 |
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Ah - so it is most likely that Daniel travelled to Australia alone? No evidence of any siblings of his there, I guess.
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funnyface
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6 Mar 2009 04:57 |
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hi im affraid i do not know if william and honora came out to aust as i have no proof of that i know that william had to be born before his son. that is why i thought it could be the william that i discribed in the later mail with a mistake in the birth. ps i found this info on a site.and thats all it had thank for all the other info sue
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EvieBeavie
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6 Mar 2009 01:47 |
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Your Alicia Fitzpatrick 1872 is the daughter of Frank and Maria -- Frank is Francis, son of Daniel 1806?
V18432500 162B/1843 FITZPATRICK FRANCIS DANIEL MARGARET
All births with those parents' names:
V1846894 63/1846 FITZPATRICK ELIZABETH V18392155 162B/1839 FITZPATRICK THOMAS V18412340 162B/1841 FITZPATRICK WILLIAM V1853803 70/1853 FITZPATRICK MARGARET V18432500 162B/1843 FITZPATRICK FRANCIS 4694/1857 FITZPATRICK CATHERINE 4747/1859 FITZPATRICK ANNE
The last two specify Bathurst district.
Just getting a handle on the connections with the people Julie has traced.
Edit - missed one first time around because of spelling of Margaret:
V18481220 65/1848 FITZPATRICK MARY A DANIEL MARGRET
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EvieBeavie
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6 Mar 2009 01:35 |
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Do you have Daniel's death certificate?
2303/1859 FITZPATRICK DANIEL father WILLIAM mother HONORA BATHURST
Australian death certificates sometimes contain weird and wonderful things. Perhaps that's where you have his birth info from, of course.
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EvieBeavie
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6 Mar 2009 01:27 |
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Since you know that your William emigrated to Australia, how likely is it that he would be a William who died in Ireland?
Especially one whose DOB is later than his son's?
Your William had a son born 1806. He must have been born before 1790 himself. Living to 1884 would have been quite a feat at the time!
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Julcoe
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6 Mar 2009 01:06 |
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PM from Sue...
From Sue hi julie ill thank you again for that info on francis and maria but they say to add to this thread AND i did also it was a added message on william fitzpatrick.that i wanted.i know that you have told me before about bdm .and i do intend to buy them.when i can afford to.thanks again and im sorry about the mix up good luck sue
I think that the following is what Sue is still looking for info about... From her posting..................
I have a bit more info on a william fitzpatrick.and i was wondering if this could be him .but i need to be able to have it confirmed.for this william also came from out of lackelly co.limerick.and was buried there aswell
this william dob 1808 death1884 ballingarry glenbrohane par.ireland
i was thinking that this might be my william and that there was a mistake in the dob i just do not know
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Vicci
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27 Feb 2009 07:11 |
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Sue
Why are you nudging this, you need to answer Julie's questions. V
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funnyface
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27 Feb 2009 04:00 |
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Julcoe
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27 Feb 2009 03:50 |
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Sue,
Have you bought ANY of the certificates that I have given you the registration details for ???
You need to buy certificates to know if we are following the correct family line. There is no point in me hunting up info. if I do not know, 100%, that the people that I am looking for are from your family.
Australia death certificate should also list all the children so are well worth getting.
Here are a few more possibilities BUT you will need to buy certificates to confirm that these people are 'your' people....
Marriage... Reg.No./Year .. 5630/1893 Groom .. PARSONS SAMUEL Bride .. FITZPATRICK MARIA District .. OBERON
Death .. this certificate should list her children... Reg.No./Year .. 14827/1931 Name .. PARSONS MARIA A Father .. FRANCIS Mother .. MARIA District .. LITHGOW
Children.... 32477/1894 PARSONS HENRY F District.. SUNNY CORNER Died .. 201871/1978 35254/1895 PARSONS MARY E District.. OBERON 26283/1897 PARSONS WILLIAM J(John) District.. SUNNY CORNER Died .. 27940/1946 , Hamilton 25424/1899 PARSONS THOMAS A District.. SUNNY CORNER 25425/1899 PARSONS JOSEPH S District.. SUNNY CORNER 17065/1901 PARSONS EMILY J District.. SUNNY CORNER 7391/1904 PARSONS SAMUEL J District.. SUNNY CORNER
Marriage.... Reg.No./Year .. 5883/1898 Groom .. GRIFFITHS GEORGE Bride .. FITZPATRICK ELIZABETH E District .. MOLONG
Death .. this certificate should list her children... Reg.No./Year .. 11408/1948 Name .. GRIFFITHS ELIZABETH ELLEN Father .. FRANCIS Mother .. MARIA District .. GRENFELL
Children .... 33151/1900 GRIFFITHS BLANCHE M District .. MOLONG 5326/1905 GRIFFITHS SAMUEL C District .. MOLONG 12176/1907 GRIFFITHS EDWARD N District .. CARGO
Possible death of another son.. Reg.No./Year .. 35076/1967 Name .. GRIFFITHS FRANCIS FREDERICK A Father .. GEORGE Mother .. ELIZABETH ELLEN District .. WEST WYALONG
marriage .. Reg.No./Year .. 1952/1911 Groom .. JENKINS SAMUEL H Bride .. FITZPATRICK THERESA District .. LITHGOW
Death .. this certificate should list her children... Reg.No./Year .. 12810/1915 Name .. JENKINS THERESA Father .. FRANCIS Mother .. MARIA District .. LITHGOW
I have now given you information on every daughter of Francis & Maria Fitzpatrick ... BUT ... You are going to have to buy some certificates to confirm that this info is about the correct people. And, remember that the death certificates should also give you a list of the names and ages of all that persons children
Let me know what you find out after buying some certificates and I will see if I can find anything else.
Julie
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Julcoe
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29 May 2008 14:35 |
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If you think that the info on Bridget BEST is your Bridget, then buy her death certificate. It should list all her children.
If you do decide to get the certificate, I have heard that it is cheaper to get a transcript through joy murrin (google her ). However I do not know what info she can get for you, but you could ask.
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Julcoe
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29 May 2008 08:16 |
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Of the marriages found for "Catherine Fitzpatrick" this was the only death with correct parents
Reg. Number .. Last Name .. Given Name .. Father's Given Name .. Mother's Given Name .. District 19844/1924 .. GRACEY .. CATHERINE .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. LITHGOW Reg. Number .. Groom's Surname .. Groom's Given Name .. Bride's Last Name at Time of Marriage .. Bride's Given Name .. District 7880/1897 .. GRACEY .. JOHN R .. FITZPATRICK .. CATHERINE .. LITHGOW Children...? Reg. Number .. Last Name .. Given Name(s) .. Father's Given Name(s) .. Mother's Given Name(s) .. District 13242/1898 .. GRACEY .. ARTHUR Ray .. JOHN R .. CATHERINE .. LITHGOW ..<<< died 42123/1971 31712/1899 .. GRACEY .. WALTER Herbert .. JOHN R CATHERINE .. LITHGOW ..<<< died 7487/1977 4269/1902 .. GRACEY .. MARY E .. JOHN R .. CATHERINE .. LITHGOW 13995/1905 .. GRACEY .. EVA A .. JOHN R .. CATHERINE .. KATOOMBA 13996/1905 .. GRACEY .. ALFRED F.. JOHN R .. CATHERINE .. KATOOMBA 25133/1907 .. GRACEY .. WILLIAM J .. JOHN R .. CATHERINE .. KATOOMBA
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Julcoe
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29 May 2008 07:48 |
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Marriage for Clara,..? & death ? Reg. Number .. Groom's Surname .. Groom's Given Name .. Bride's Last Name at Time of Marriage .. Bride's Given Name .. District 3172/1898 .. MURRAY .. EDWARD P .. FITZPATRICK .. CLARA .. COONAMBLE Reg. Number .. Last Name .. Given Name .. Father's Given Name .. Mother's Given Name .. District . 38642/1966 .. MURRAY .. CLARA .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. NEWTOWN Their Children....
Reg.Number .. Last Name .. Given Name(s) .. Father's Given Name(s) .. Mother's Given Name(s) .. District 21332/1900.. MURRAY .. ERNEST E .. EDWARD P .. CLARA .. COONAMBLE ..>>> died,..8640/1900 21348/1902 .. MURRAY .. VINCENT .. EDWARD P .. CLARA ..COONAMBLE ..>>> died... 13260/1908 12447/1905 .. MURRAY.. EDWARD A .. EDWARD P .. CLARA .. COONAMBLE 12656/1907 .. MURRAY .. HORACE F .. EDWARD P .. CLARA .. COONAMBLE
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Julcoe
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29 May 2008 07:38 |
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You would have to buy the marriage certificate to know for sure if the bride is a member of the family you are searching for. The certificate should have her fathers name on it, for confirmation.
Of the marriages found for "Bridget Fitzpatrick" this was the only death in the 1970's, & with correct parents (almost)
Reg.Number .. Last Name .. Given Name .. Father's Given Name .. Mother's Given Name 25575/1975 .... BEST .... BRIDGET ..... FRANCIS .... MARIAH
Reg. Number .. Groom's Surname .. & Given Name .. Bride's Last Name .. Bride's Given Name.. District 7065/1909 .. BEST .. ROY H .. FITZPATRICK .. BRIDGET .. SYDNEY
As the marriages is after 1907 any births are not accessable on-line
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Julcoe
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29 May 2008 07:20 |
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Is this the family that you are searching info. on ? & the women that you wish to trace? Reg. Number .. Last Name .. Given Name .. Father's Given Name .. Mother's Given Name .. District 4625/1862 .. FITZPATRICK .. WILLIAM .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. BATHURST 5337/1863 .. FITZPATRICK .. DANIEL .. FRANK .. MARIA .. BATHURST 5520/1866 .. FITZPATRICK .. FRANCIS P .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. BATHURST 10207/1868 .. FITZPATRICK .. THOMAS .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. HARTLEY >>>> 10890/1870 .. FITZPATRICK .. MARIA .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. HARTLEY >>>> 11098/1872.. FITZPATRICK .. MARGARET .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. HARTLEY >>>> 12157/1874.. FITZPATRICK .. ELIZABETH ELLEN .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. HARTLEY >>>> 12837/1876 .. FITZPATRICK .. ELISHA .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. HARTLEY >>>> 13303/1877 .. FITZPATRICK .. CATHERINE .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. HARTLEY 15093/1879 .. FITZPATRICK .. FRANCIS .. FRANCIS .. MARIA ..HARTLEY >>>> 16171/1880 .. FITZPATRICK .. CLARA .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. LITHGOW >>>> 12157/1883 .. FITZPATRICK .. TERESA .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. EAST MACQUARIE >>>> 14058/1884 .. FITZPATRICK .. BRIDGET .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. EAST MACQUARIE 22941/1886 .. FITZPATRICK .. ALFRED J .. FRANCIS .. MARIA ..LITHGOW 24114/1888 .. FITZPATRICK .. ERNEST .. FRANCIS .. MARIA .. LITHGOW
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Julcoe
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23 May 2008 13:36 |
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Reg. Number.. Last Name.. Given Name.. Father's Given Name.. Mother's Given Name.. District 9835/1916.. FITZPATRICK.. ALICIA.. FRANK .. MARIA .. LITHGOW
As her death is registered as Fitzpatrick, it is doubtful that she married. But... if you buy the certificate you will now for sure.
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funnyface
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23 May 2008 08:04 |
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im looking for a ELISHA FITZPATRICK born 1872 from hartley nsw aust near lithgow.died 1916 what i need to know if she got married .and to whom. and if there were any children. glad of any help i get. thank you kindly
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12 Feb 2008 05:03 |
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could there be some one out there just who may be able to HELP
im near the last part of the puzzle at tracing my tree but i need a person who has some knowledge about irish records.
could this person be you hear,s the story so far
william fitzpatrick married a honora fleming when i do not know
these to had a son born 1806 from wicklow ireland
his name was danial fitzpatrick i can move forward from daniel.
if by chance someone can help me .please reply to my message
thank you ever so much. SORRY ABOUT THAT. i have a bit more info on a william fitzpatrick.and i was wondering if this could be him .but i need to be able to have it confirmed.for this william also came from out of lackelly co.limerick.and was buried there aswell
this william dob 1808 death1884 ballingarry glenbrohane par.ireland
i was thinking that this might be my william and that there was a mistake in the dob i just do not know thank you sue
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