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Please help FIND Ivy White or John thomas White (t

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Krystle

Krystle Report 23 Apr 2008 12:52

Hi, my name is Krystle Ramsay and i am desperately trying to find out information on my grandmother ivy white. I know she was born in a house in Leyton, West Ham London in 1910. Her mothers name was Jessie White and she was a barmaid. Her father is unknown as his name is not registered on the birth certifcate. Im hoping someone out there could help me find out who her relatives were and help fill in the unanswered gaps of my grandmothers life. Her mother sent her to Australia by herself at the age of 13 though they rarely kept in contact. Many years later my grandmother was sent a newspaper clipping of a man by the name John Thomas White AKA "Joe, The Peanut King" who had died in a tram accident on february 11th, 1937 in East Ham London at the age of 62. he was married to a rebecca white but they were than seperated. i think this man may have been ivy white's grandfather. there were no details with the newspaper clipping of who had sent it to her.
If you could help me with any of the people just mentioned or infornation on my grandmother ivy white please reply back it would be greatly appreciated.
Thankyou,

Krystle Ramsay

Potty

Potty Report 23 Apr 2008 13:12

Looking at the dates and ages, I wonder if John was Jessie's father. If he was 62 in 1937 he would have been born approx 1875. If he fathered Jessie at sixteen, that would have been in 1891 making Jessie sixteen when she had Ivy in 1910. Possible, but only just. I wonder if he was Jessie's brother?

Potty

Potty Report 23 Apr 2008 13:17

There is this family in the 1891 census:

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1891 England Census
about John White
Name: John White
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Sarigh
Gender: Male
Where born: Hoxton, London, England

Civil Parish: Barking
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
Town: Barking
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Romford
Sub registration district: Barking Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred White 2
Emily White 13
Hubert White 14
.....Jessie White 5
....John White 16
Kate White 17
Nell White 7
Sarah White 11
Sarigh White 46
William White 48


Potty

Potty Report 23 Apr 2008 13:22

The same John in 1901 with a wife Rebecca. Occupation looks like Stonebreaker in Chemical works (could be store keeper):
1901 England Census
about John White
Name: John White
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rebecca
Gender: Male
Where born: Hoxton, London, England

Civil Parish: Barking
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
Town: Barking
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Romford
Sub registration district: Barkingtown
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 289
Household Members: Name Age
Rose Oxley 18
Clara White 1
John White 26
Rebecca White 21


Potty

Potty Report 23 Apr 2008 13:44

This could be Jessie in 1901 - occupation General Servant - domestic.

The mother's name is different and both parents' ages are younger than the family in 1891; also William's occupation has changed from photgrapher to bootmaker, but the children look right; also, William born Lincolnshire and his wife City of London, as in the 1891:

1901 England Census
about William White
Name: William White
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Colsterworth, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: East Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene
Town: East Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub registration district: East Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 63
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred White 12
Ellen White 16
Jane White 50
Jessie White 14
William White 50


Potty

Potty Report 23 Apr 2008 13:50

1881 - William occupation shoemaker
1881 England Census
about Wm. White
Name: Wm. White
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Coltsworth, Lincoln, England

Civil Parish: Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 67 Templar Road
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Shoe Maker

Registration district: Hackney
Sub registration district: West Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 36a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Daniel White 13
Emily White 9
Herbert White 5
John White 10
Kate White 12
Sarah White 2
Sarah Jane White 35
Wm. White 37
Wm. White 15


Krystle

Krystle Report 24 Apr 2008 12:07

I think you may be right, john could be jessie's brother. Thankyou for your help you may have just opened a few more doors for me.